Oh how the mighty have fallen. This program needs new management, Tom.

Nov 19, 2023
8:29:00am

Hinta All-American

The cold, hard truth about this BYU football team

This year’s BYU football team could be one of the worst in the modern era. What’s gone so wrong with BYU football? Things don’t get easier with No. 14 Oklahoma up next.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/17/23961556/byu-football-cold-hard-truth-cougars-kalani-sitake

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Oh how the mighty have fallen. This program needs new management, Tom.

Hinta

11/19/23 8:29am

Tom should have been fired when he was more concerned with what the world

Longseason

11/19/23 8:33am

Not fired. But should have stepped down.

coug10278

11/19/23 8:36am

He shows more interest in his Halloween costume than the performance of KS

Hinta

11/19/23 8:36am

RE: He shows more interest in his Halloween costume than the performance of KS

StarMan

11/19/23 11:36am

Having a fun Halloween and running the program are not mutually exclusive

Mabuhay Coug

11/19/23 3:30pm

Are you kidding? Athletic program not just football.

FMCougar

11/19/23 8:48am

False. BYU is more than Tom. Would have gotten in regardless of ad

Longseason

11/19/23 8:50am

Exactly, people assume a different AD couldn’t possibly have accomplished it

vegas guey

11/19/23 8:58am

Didn't say that, but he's the one that did. Overall program looks good to me.

FMCougar

11/19/23 9:27am

With that in mind byu is more than Tom

davidmj10

11/19/23 1:08pm

No one knew it was an obvious lie

Ron Mexico

11/19/23 9:14am

He’s obviously still bothered by it as the seats haven’t returned. But trying to

Longseason

11/19/23 9:19am

It’s in the past… get over it. When the truth came out, it was addressed.

Ron Mexico

11/19/23 9:40am

It's one of many missteps over TH's two-decade tenure

vegas guey

11/19/23 10:47am

It was addressed? Not really.

COACHdrn

11/19/23 10:54am

Tone deaf.

MarylandFan

11/19/23 1:27pm

The continued ROC seating ban is not in the past.

mccledg

11/19/23 3:20pm

Tom Holmoe gave it legs when it had none. Crisis management 101 failure.

MarylandFan

11/19/23 1:26pm

Had no legs? That might be the most delusional cb statement ever.

CorndogStickshift

11/19/23 1:48pm

The media ran hard with it, citing his speech to the students.

MarylandFan

11/19/23 1:50pm

His Athletic Department released an apology and impugned an individual as guilty

MarylandFan

11/19/23 1:50pm

Both were false and misguided but gave. it. legs.

MarylandFan

11/19/23 1:51pm

Yes we did "the whole crowd chanting racial slurs? It was obvious lie and can't

johnnybyu

11/19/23 1:47pm

Really? So say nothing until you know. Truth was found w/o a ton of digging.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/19/23 2:00pm

Lots of people knew. Tom did a very poor job.

CougarMandias

11/19/23 2:23pm

Second I heard it I knew it was a lie, made zero sense that racial slurs were

gilmerbuckeye

11/19/23 3:09pm

And so did Tom

CougarMandias

11/19/23 4:17pm

Tom did what most “leaders” today would have done. You think

WizeGuise

11/19/23 9:36am

He did what most woke academics would do — that's the issue

vegas guey

11/19/23 10:52am

This post is very underrated for its stunning lack of understanding of public relations.

Blue2thebone

11/19/23 4:16pm

Yes, caving to the cancelers and advancing moronic narratives is savvy PR

vegas guey

11/19/23 7:57pm

My go to move when the coach at Duke and a teenage kid yelled a racial derogatory term at the student would not be

Blue2thebone

11/19/23 11:40pm

A leader is not supposed to throw his team/students under the bus. The le

johnnybyu

11/19/23 1:49pm

Sadly

CougarMandias

11/19/23 2:23pm

when is CB going to get over this? its freaking ridiculous. is this filled with

ColonelMustard

11/19/23 10:07am

Many of us identify with BYU. That was the worst PR for BYU in my lifetime.

MarylandFan

11/19/23 1:29pm

You must have a very short life. Athletes raping student(s?) was much worse.

NYC and Japan

11/20/23 12:53pm

I was on my mission then. Only heard about it after.

MarylandFan

11/20/23 1:12pm

Dumb post of the day nomination

GhostRider

11/19/23 10:40am

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ProvoY

11/19/23 11:33am

How naive of you...you've clearly never had a leadership position in business

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

11/19/23 12:01pm

Leadership is throwing your team/students under the bus based on a lie because

johnnybyu

11/19/23 1:59pm

Thats funny - CB constantly complains about lack of accountability

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

11/19/23 8:39pm

His response was fine and normal. Should have been fired for extending Kalani after the scrimmage season

Blue2thebone

11/19/23 12:21pm

The angry CB mobs calling for coaches’ and AD’s jobs remind me a lot of the

Hiccupless

11/19/23 12:21pm

Amen. But as long as players stay out of jail, nobody gonna get after Tom.

What_The_Hill?

11/19/23 2:34pm

Give me a break...

CougarBuddy

11/19/23 8:54am

The issue is recruiting. Growing pains are one thing. Kalani is not getting it

johnnybyu

11/19/23 1:54pm

Recruiting numbers at byu are a weak argument...

CougarBuddy

11/19/23 2:21pm

See Link: I am talking about the LDS/Instate kids. Until BYU flips the script

johnnybyu

11/19/23 2:53pm

I don't completely disagree...

CougarBuddy

11/19/23 3:33pm

Or we can go back to the Mtn West to play cupcakes

GA_Coug

11/19/23 11:40am

No one wants that, but a bunch of those cupcakes are ranked higher than BYU

Hinta

11/19/23 4:46pm

Jump on the their bandwagon 🧁

GA_Coug

11/19/23 5:10pm

BYU must do everything possible including $ to keep Aiden Robbings & Martin

fan32

11/19/23 2:35pm

Jake, Aiden and Martin and better coaching will win Big12 games next year.

fan32

11/19/23 3:27pm

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