A leader is not supposed to throw his team/students under the bus. The le

Nov 19, 2023
1:49:57pm

johnnybyu Truly Addicted User

Based on a lie was awful leadership

I like most of what Tom has done but the lecture to the students had such bad optics.

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Oh how the mighty have fallen. This program needs new management, Tom.

Hinta

Nov 19, 8:29am

Tom should have been fired when he was more concerned with what the world

Longseason

Nov 19, 8:33am

Not fired. But should have stepped down.

coug10278

Nov 19, 8:36am

He shows more interest in his Halloween costume than the performance of KS

Hinta

Nov 19, 8:36am

RE: He shows more interest in his Halloween costume than the performance of KS

StarMan

Nov 19, 11:36am

Having a fun Halloween and running the program are not mutually exclusive

Mabuhay Coug

Nov 19, 3:30pm

Are you kidding? Athletic program not just football.

FMCougar

Nov 19, 8:48am

False. BYU is more than Tom. Would have gotten in regardless of ad

Longseason

Nov 19, 8:50am

Exactly, people assume a different AD couldn’t possibly have accomplished it

vegas guey

Nov 19, 8:58am

Didn't say that, but he's the one that did. Overall program looks good to me.

FMCougar

Nov 19, 9:27am

With that in mind byu is more than Tom

davidmj10

Nov 19, 1:08pm

He ruined an innocent kids life.

MAGACougar

Nov 19, 11:31am

Let's be clear - it was Duke WVB who ruined the kids life

BluebloodOR

Nov 19, 12:09pm

No no no no no. Tom Holmoe sold the lie publicly.

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 1:25pm

Duke WVB had the "sine qua non causation" though.

BluebloodOR

Nov 19, 4:02pm

Legitimized by Holmoe's Athletic Department tweeting an apology and ID'd culprit

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 4:17pm

And he knew it was a lie when he did it. He's a coward.

AZ Coug

Nov 19, 8:57pm

I don’t think he knew it was a lie, he simply endorsed the accuser’s assertion

MarylandFan

Nov 20, 7:31am

At a minimum he knew he had zero evidence that what he said was true

AZ Coug

Nov 20, 6:07pm

*ruined an innocent kids week. Fixed it for you. &Duke player is responsible one

DiamondMo

Nov 19, 12:41pm

An innocent disabled kid

CharlottesvilleCoug

Nov 19, 1:52pm

No one knew it was an obvious lie

Ron Mexico

Nov 19, 9:14am

He’s obviously still bothered by it as the seats haven’t returned. But trying to

Longseason

Nov 19, 9:19am

It’s in the past… get over it. When the truth came out, it was addressed.

Ron Mexico

Nov 19, 9:40am

It's one of many missteps over TH's two-decade tenure

vegas guey

Nov 19, 10:47am

It was addressed? Not really.

COACHdrn

Nov 19, 10:54am

Tone deaf.

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 1:27pm

The continued ROC seating ban is not in the past.

mccledg

Nov 19, 3:20pm

Tom Holmoe gave it legs when it had none. Crisis management 101 failure.

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 1:26pm

Had no legs? That might be the most delusional cb statement ever.

CorndogStickshift

Nov 19, 1:48pm

The media ran hard with it, citing his speech to the students.

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 1:50pm

His Athletic Department released an apology and impugned an individual as guilty

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 1:50pm

Both were false and misguided but gave. it. legs.

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 1:51pm

Yes we did "the whole crowd chanting racial slurs? It was obvious lie and can't

johnnybyu

Nov 19, 1:47pm

Really? So say nothing until you know. Truth was found w/o a ton of digging.

BleedCougarBlue2

Nov 19, 2:00pm

Lots of people knew. Tom did a very poor job.

CougarMandias

Nov 19, 2:23pm

Second I heard it I knew it was a lie, made zero sense that racial slurs were

gilmerbuckeye

Nov 19, 3:09pm

And so did Tom

CougarMandias

Nov 19, 4:17pm

Tom did what most “leaders” today would have done. You think

WizeGuise

Nov 19, 9:36am

He did what most woke academics would do — that's the issue

vegas guey

Nov 19, 10:52am

This post is very underrated for its stunning lack of understanding of public relations.

Blue2thebone

Nov 19, 4:16pm

Yes, caving to the cancelers and advancing moronic narratives is savvy PR

vegas guey

Nov 19, 7:57pm

My go to move when the coach at Duke and a teenage kid yelled a racial derogatory term at the student would not be

Blue2thebone

Nov 19, 11:40pm

A leader is not supposed to throw his team/students under the bus. The le

johnnybyu

Nov 19, 1:49pm

Sadly

CougarMandias

Nov 19, 2:23pm

when is CB going to get over this? its freaking ridiculous. is this filled with

ColonelMustard

Nov 19, 10:07am

Many of us identify with BYU. That was the worst PR for BYU in my lifetime.

MarylandFan

Nov 19, 1:29pm

You must have a very short life. Athletes raping student(s?) was much worse.

NYC and Japan

Nov 20, 12:53pm

I was on my mission then. Only heard about it after.

MarylandFan

Nov 20, 1:12pm

Dumb post of the day nomination

GhostRider

Nov 19, 10:40am

Cougarboard sure is a special place.

ProvoY

Nov 19, 11:33am

How naive of you...you've clearly never had a leadership position in business

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

Nov 19, 12:01pm

Leadership is throwing your team/students under the bus based on a lie because

johnnybyu

Nov 19, 1:59pm

Thats funny - CB constantly complains about lack of accountability

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

Nov 19, 8:39pm

His response was fine and normal. Should have been fired for extending Kalani after the scrimmage season

Blue2thebone

Nov 19, 12:21pm

The angry CB mobs calling for coaches’ and AD’s jobs remind me a lot of the

Hiccupless

Nov 19, 12:21pm

Amen. But as long as players stay out of jail, nobody gonna get after Tom.

What_The_Hill?

Nov 19, 2:34pm

Give me a break...

CougarBuddy

Nov 19, 8:54am

The issue is recruiting. Growing pains are one thing. Kalani is not getting it

johnnybyu

Nov 19, 1:54pm

Recruiting numbers at byu are a weak argument...

CougarBuddy

Nov 19, 2:21pm

See Link: I am talking about the LDS/Instate kids. Until BYU flips the script

johnnybyu

Nov 19, 2:53pm

I don't completely disagree...

CougarBuddy

Nov 19, 3:33pm

Or we can go back to the Mtn West to play cupcakes

GA_Coug

Nov 19, 11:40am

No one wants that, but a bunch of those cupcakes are ranked higher than BYU

Hinta

Nov 19, 4:46pm

Jump on the their bandwagon 🧁

GA_Coug

Nov 19, 5:10pm

BYU must do everything possible including $ to keep Aiden Robbings & Martin

fan32

Nov 19, 2:35pm

Jake, Aiden and Martin and better coaching will win Big12 games next year.

fan32

Nov 19, 3:27pm

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