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Oct 31, 2024
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Zoobieman
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I don't agree with it either. . . But I have accepted that not everything
I don't agree with it either. . . But I have accepted that not everything needs to be logical.
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Listened to Kurtz explain B12 championship & I think BYU has to win out to get
SBB
Oct 31, 4:49am
His assumption is that the tie breaker will be decided by conference opponent
cougar4life55
Oct 31, 4:58am
Maybe i misunderstood or fell asleep.
SBB
Oct 31, 5:00am
No, I think Kurtz just missed the fact that once the first seed is placed the
cougar4life55
Oct 31, 5:02am
There is some ambiguity on if the K St win would count or not. The wording in
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 5:24am
I read that argument, but how would it not? Once K-state is chosen as seed one,
cougar4life55
Oct 31, 5:36am
A couple of items: 1) It reads 'NEXT highest seeded team' which implies the team
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 6:24am
How is KSU not the next-highest in this scenario? It doesn’t say “next-lowest”.
Japan Coug
Oct 31, 6:51am
I agree #1 doesn't make sense. Most people don't interpret it that way. #2
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 7:12am
RE: There is some ambiguity on if the K St win would count or not. The wording
Tricky
Oct 31, 9:19am
THat's #1. I can't imagine they interpret it 'next highest' though, but it's
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:01am
It's ambiguous
rcbyufan
Oct 31, 8:27am
Number1 tie breaker is he’d to head. If we all had 1 loss most likely BYU is 1
ImuaKahuku
Oct 31, 10:25am
Incorrect. Head to head is not counted in multi-team tiebreakers unless 1) all
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:30am
You sure about that?
ImuaKahuku
Oct 31, 12:17pm
Thats only for a two team tie, need to read the 3+ team tiebreaker
BYUFootballisBack
Oct 31, 12:25pm
BYU gets in CCG in all 1-loss tiebreakers if our 1 L is to ASU
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 5:23am
I don't think it matters who we lose to. If BYU loses to Utah, Houston, or
cougar4life55
Oct 31, 5:35am
Maybe - there is ambiguity in that interpretation. The online tiebreaker
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 6:25am
He gives a good breakdown of why he interprets it this way here:
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 6:28am
This is just some internet rando. His opinion is no better than anyone else’s,
Japan Coug
Oct 31, 6:49am
I don't agree with it either. . . But I have accepted that not everything
Zoobieman
Oct 31, 7:06am
Sure, I hope he's wrong. All that matters is how the conference interprets it.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 7:12am
Unless ISU loses to KSU. Then we get in ONLY if our loss is to ASU
SouthernCoug
Oct 31, 8:50am
Isn't that what I said? We get in no matter what if our L is to ASU.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 9:03am
No, but I also didn't exactly respond to what you did say either, so...
SouthernCoug
Oct 31, 10:19am
How did you interpret this?
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:24am
As you did, but I was making the point that if ISU wins out, BYU gets in
SouthernCoug
Oct 31, 10:57am
Gotcha. Yep also true.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 11:02am
I thought we could lose to Houston and still be in as well (but not both)
Lanterne Rouge
Oct 31, 9:12am
In a 4-way tie with Colorado, that's true. In a 3-way with ISU and KSU, it's
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:02am
Ah, thank you. That makes sense.
Lanterne Rouge
Oct 31, 10:09am
RE: Unless ISU loses to KSU. Then we get in ONLY if our loss is to ASU
Japan Coug
Oct 31, 9:22am
I dont think this is true. After H2H the next rule is record against the HIGHEST
MaximusMeridius
Oct 31, 12:08pm
Maybe. There is ambiguity about if the K St W would count or not in our 2-way
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 12:17pm
It's a good thing BYU is at their easier part of their schedule right now.
greatbam
Oct 31, 5:51am
Ha ha. Very funny.
Happy As Larry
Oct 31, 9:33am
What? Do you think Utah is going to be more difficult than UCF was last weekend? I don't. ASU IMO would be the..
greatbam
Oct 31, 9:42am
Utah's D will be lightyears better than UCF's.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:03am
It will be different though. UCF was elite 1-dimensional offense w/ bad defense
rcbyufan
Oct 31, 10:31am
BYU is in good shape
I'mBatman
Oct 31, 11:35am
I am just going to wait after the Kansas game to buy tickets. . .
Zoobieman
Oct 31, 7:04am
BYU has the predicted best record based on past performance and opponents
NYC and Japan
Oct 31, 7:24am
Colorado would need to lose another one and Iowa St would need to beat KSU
Blue Ghost
Oct 31, 8:18am
We are in the CCG in all 1-loss tiebreakers if our L is to ASU.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 8:25am
Ok. I believe you. So we better beat Utah.
Blue Ghost
Oct 31, 8:39am
If Iowa State beats KState, 8-1 BYU would win the tiebreaker against Colorado
Zoobieman
Oct 31, 8:40am
What is the tiebreaker? We have one of the easiest Big-12 Schedules
Blue Ghost
Oct 31, 8:45am
I think we would be in due to record against common opponents (7-0 vs 6-1)
SouthernCoug
Oct 31, 8:53am
Record vs common opponents.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 9:03am
If we win out, we are in. If ISU wins out, we are in with one loss to anyone.
SouthernCoug
Oct 31, 8:47am
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RGGeemer
Oct 31, 9:03am
Doesn't Colorado already have 2 losses?
NonmormonYfan89
Oct 31, 9:13am
In-conference losses
Happy As Larry
Oct 31, 9:35am
Not in conference
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:03am
Well KSU winning in Ames is a pretty tall order
runningryan
Oct 31, 9:56am
Not correct. Casey Lundquist did a podcast on this & I recapped it:
MaximusMeridius
Oct 31, 9:58am
Link to the podcast where he talks about the B12 official interpretation?
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:04am
Found it, giving it a listen.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:04am
Yep it was in the post I linked. Definitely worth a listen
MaximusMeridius
Oct 31, 10:09am
He said 'Caveat, we have sent an email to confirm we are interpreting this
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:12am
I've been checking the site daily to see if he's gotten an update 🙁
MaximusMeridius
Oct 31, 10:14am
Later he also said 'This is what we are waiting for confirmation on, but this is
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 10:15am
Yep. And his interpretation makes sense..I'd be highly surprised if he's wrong
MaximusMeridius
Oct 31, 11:28am
Makes sense to me. But it is up to the official conference interpretation.
RGGeemer
Oct 31, 11:36am
We SHOULD win out
runningryan
Oct 31, 10:13am
This isn't right, there's really only 2 scenarios a 1 loss BYU doesn't get in
stansburycoug
Oct 31, 10:39am
We can still get in if KSU beats ISU with 1 loss, that 1 loss can only be to ASU
BYUFootballisBack
Oct 31, 10:53am
RE: Listened to Kurtz explain B12 championship & I think BYU has to win out
Bobmarleyjr
Oct 31, 2:45pm
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