Not the game!

Great post. Nominated. Everyone should read.

Quacker

8/9/17 7:44pm

Rack him

Unibro

8/10/17 7:39am

Hmmmmmmmmm. I really didn't like Bronco but I'm not so sure

Gerald-DeGroot

8/9/17 7:45pm

With all these improvements, this team should go 15-0.

Y'zFan

8/9/17 8:18pm

Nah who needs more than 1 year plus I consider last years loss to Utah a win

franklyvulgar

8/9/17 8:22pm

Amen

Gerald-DeGroot

8/9/17 9:11pm

Sounds like a Ty Detmer versus Anae thing

Acorn

8/10/17 2:51am

This post aged well

4mack

3/5/18 12:04pm

But CB told me that good coaches yell a lot and "light up" players when they

Iman23

8/9/17 7:51pm

He said they yell, they just don't berate. They use it as a teaching moment...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:03pm

What are they yelling? "Hey, you have beautiful eyes?"

DirtyWater

8/9/17 8:06pm

There is still yelling and accountability or did I misread

franklyvulgar

8/9/17 8:06pm

3rd paragraph

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:22am

This discussion has been held regarding our BB coach, who watches the

Rocketman

8/9/17 9:47pm

I totally agree.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:30am

I have a friend that played for Sitake at Utah. He told me the same thing that

Nat Gas Man

8/9/17 7:54pm

that explains a lot. Often times Utah wins in the rivalry came down to a few...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:05pm

I'm glad we have sitake but bronco never had a losing season

franklyvulgar

8/9/17 8:20pm

Easy to do when you play 6 teams a year with losing records.

CarolinaCoug

8/9/17 10:00pm

Don't most teams play 6 teams with losing records?

scootsy

8/9/17 10:14pm

No

CarolinaCoug

8/9/17 10:55pm

On average, don't half the teams on a team's schedule have losing records?

DirtyWater

8/9/17 11:15pm

Not all teams with losing records are created equal..

icecougar

8/10/17 12:56am

And they have losing records for a reason

ALC

8/10/17 10:04am

I was a Bronco apologist...

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:36am

agreed

ColonelMustard

8/10/17 12:19pm

I'd bet my lunch most coaches break down film like this.

jensen46

8/9/17 9:20pm

actually I don't think so...it appears to be an Urban Meyer thing

Nat Gas Man

8/10/17 8:10am

I love the current staff. But according to one UVA fan, Bronco's methods

84 Grad

8/9/17 7:58pm

That's exactly what he did at BYU. But each season he expected more from

Freddie Cougar

8/10/17 4:55pm

"many teaching moments were missed and the confidence of many players was..."

icecougar

8/9/17 8:02pm

Yup

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:44am

I'm pretty sure there is more to it than that.

StalwartBraveTrue

8/10/17 5:52pm

If you delete the middle three paragraphs, then this is much more believable.

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:04pm

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icecougar

8/9/17 8:05pm

Plenty of other examples

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:56am

I think that you're seeing what you want to see.

Random Walk

8/10/17 8:53am

what about takitaki saying kalani cares more about the players than bronco?

District

8/10/17 12:07pm

Takitaki did not say that...

Random Walk

8/10/17 1:17pm

"Takes care of us more"

District

8/10/17 1:24pm

"Takes care of us more" is not "Kalani cares more about the players"

Random Walk

8/10/17 1:34pm

Whatever dude. Between the OP,takitaki, and other observations it's clear

District

8/10/17 2:18pm

Now you're onto something that I can agree with...

Random Walk

8/10/17 4:12pm

Why wouldn't Burt tell Bronco he had eye problems? Seems kinda career limiting on his part.

RSLCoug

8/9/17 8:04pm

he couldn't get a word in edge-wise from all the yelling and berating...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:06pm

I was told by a former player that Bronco had an open door policy for his

Bullrider

8/10/17 4:00pm

But did Burt feel Bronco was approachable?

icecougar

8/11/17 8:57pm

Sure he did, he knew the policy.

Bullrider

8/11/17 10:03pm

Approachability

TriggerWarning

8/9/17 8:14pm

Spot on.

cdr88

8/10/17 1:53pm

Ha

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:00am

From what I read, Burt didn't even realize

bluegato

8/10/17 8:15am

RE: From what I read, Burt didn't even realize

SMRT

8/10/17 4:13pm

Hippo!

cougaman

8/10/17 4:59pm

I wonder if that's why certain players, like Hine, didn't seem to develop well

Run-DMT

8/9/17 8:05pm

Hopefully it means fewer missed tackles. That is one thing that bugged me about

cougaman

8/9/17 8:05pm

Bronco coached the best defenses in BYU history.

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:07pm

They had talented QB's, they just couldn't develop them as passers

icecougar

8/9/17 8:09pm

I think it was more the lack of offensive identity mixed with the merry-go-round

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:14pm

It's hard to say if Munns and Lark were overrated, they never got much of a...

icecougar

8/10/17 2:16am

I generally like Bronco, and think he was a great defensive coordinator. I was

cougaman

8/9/17 8:14pm

I'm just saying that there were bigger issues than tackling during the Bronco

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:17pm

This is just the one that I noticed the most as someone who never really played

cougaman

8/9/17 8:20pm

I've read him say he doesn't teach and expects players to already know the...

icecougar

8/10/17 2:37am

amen. basics that Bronco said they don't practice...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:08pm

My friend who is a player on the team told me "Something is off" with

coolblue

8/9/17 8:07pm

was off or is off?

84 Grad

8/9/17 8:10pm

"is off"

coolblue

8/9/17 8:11pm

Please do go on...

MaxxPower

8/9/17 8:16pm

I'll leave it at that for now. There was more.

coolblue

8/9/17 9:39pm

Please, throw something inflammatory out like that and then don't say anything?

RaggaeCoug

8/10/17 8:23am

LINK !!!

CarolinaCoug

8/9/17 10:08pm

Hahaha, and there you have it. His "friend" is a Bronco guy, hence doesn't like

RaggaeCoug

8/10/17 8:29am

They work TOO HARD, they like winning TOO MUCH, they recruit TOO WELL

Backcountry

8/10/17 2:34am

Always got to take things like this, even when legit with a grain of salt.

rtNelson

8/10/17 4:26am

Can we move on from Bronco, don't like the guy......but it's history, let it go

chirocoug

8/9/17 8:12pm

Wasn't this a post about how the team is moving on from Bronco?

RSLCoug

8/9/17 8:18pm

Good point. I am a big anti Bronco. Felt he held the program back

chirocoug

8/9/17 8:30pm

Agreed. Kalani = Lavell Guy, BYU Football. Bronco = Grit Weirdo

Honor Code

8/10/17 5:17am

Because he wouldn't be in your Hashimoto ad?

OneUpper

8/9/17 8:24pm

Clever...

crazY

8/9/17 8:35pm

Wait, CB told me that Bronco wasnt engaged and fiery?

BYUfan92

8/9/17 8:19pm

Thank you for this post, but color me a bit skeptical

Adrielle

8/9/17 8:20pm

Some technique was taught, I'm sure.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:10am

Here's the thing

shakarocks

8/10/17 7:23am

Two different ways to do the same thing

shakarocks

8/9/17 8:28pm

Perhaps.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:12am

That is what it comes down to

shakarocks

8/10/17 7:25am

Burt was playing as a freshman but he got injured...

Jericho

8/9/17 8:29pm

Not sure what you're getting at...

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:13am

But he was blind! How could he have played football!?!?

rtNelson

8/10/17 4:30pm

Just seems like two different methods. Neither is wrong.

Mister P

8/9/17 8:40pm

Agreed except if what the OP said was true then was there a blind spot in Bronco's style and methods that led to

Adrielle

8/9/17 8:48pm

OP made some kind of bizarre claims about Burt, so there's

Jericho

8/9/17 9:07pm

This is the second time that I've read on CB about Burt getting a prescription visor..

Adrielle

8/9/17 9:09pm

Not talking about the visor

Jericho

8/9/17 9:13pm

My Burt anecdote was from Criddle

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:15am

I have never met a coach that was universally loved

shakarocks

8/9/17 9:48pm

In general I agree with you. My statement was more of a hypothetical

Adrielle

8/9/17 9:54pm

Can we be done with the garbage about Burt not being able to see the gaps in the

Pretorian

8/9/17 9:01pm

If you have astigmatism they won't work

seco03

8/9/17 9:06pm

Plain contacts won't but toric contact lenses will. He may have something that

Malathion

8/9/17 9:32pm

I have no idea about Riley's condition. Only that there a lot of people who

seco03

8/9/17 9:36pm

Also false.

Conan

8/11/17 3:07pm

False.

Conan

8/11/17 3:06pm

Can you prove it wrong?

Lip Gallagher

8/9/17 9:07pm

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Cougazul

8/9/17 9:29pm

Can you prove it's absurd? Honestly asking.

Lip Gallagher

8/9/17 9:35pm

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Cougazul

8/9/17 9:47pm

That part did sound weird.

Lip Gallagher

8/9/17 9:53pm

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Cougazul

8/9/17 10:02pm

Must have been a slow day at CB!

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:29am

But, but but, Sitake invented the prescription visor!!!

thejimmer

8/9/17 9:46pm

Prescription visor portion is legit. So is my source.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 5:39am

this means absolutely nothing if they don't win on the field

Sale

8/9/17 9:06pm

But this is what we talk about until they get in games.

Squire

8/9/17 9:28pm

Beating Arizona, Toledo, Michigan State and Mississippi State

bigjohn

8/9/17 10:57pm

agreed, but you have to attribute some of that success to the prior regime

Sale

8/9/17 11:37pm

Very true.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:34am

It would be great if the Bronco comparisons died. He did good things and moved

JamesWestfall

8/9/17 10:09pm

I blame the team nutritionist

Thunder Buddy

8/9/17 10:39pm

POTDs losing their luster.

coug10278

8/9/17 11:39pm

We talkin' about PRACTICE!!!

Run-DMT

8/10/17 1:30am

Not the game!

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:37am

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Cougazul

8/10/17 9:12am

I don't know anything about practices now but I observed several under Bronco

cougar_chick1

8/10/17 8:35am

The ball on a stick thing is a common football drill

shakarocks

8/10/17 8:47am

Mistaken about Bronco not using Burt.

Gorum the Old

8/10/17 8:36am

Those darn superlatives.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 5:48am

Bronco didn't exactly move Burt.

slatecoug

8/11/17 9:38am

Since we now know there is no such thing as a prescription visor, how much

coolblue

8/10/17 8:39am

None, to my knowledge.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 5:55am

You see what you want to see. You hear what you want to hear.

mtnKat

8/10/17 11:54am

No one said anything about emotional trauma

District

8/10/17 12:13pm

Yeah, they're football players.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:41am

Many effective ways to practice

Lemmonhead

8/10/17 1:26pm

Great points.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:48am

It's all academic right now.

WaybackCougar

8/10/17 5:59pm

Summer = speculation

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:51am

Won't take five years to see results

Heinz57

8/12/17 9:00pm

RE: Won't take five years to see results

WaybackCougar

8/14/17 11:09am

Your buddy picked up on all this as a freshman helping BYU coaches? He's really

(Private)

8/10/17 6:49pm

He's a sharp kid.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:52am

This says it all...

Heinz57

8/12/17 8:57pm

Your friend doesn't know JACK apparently. Like less than zero.

pink22

11/21/17 11:46am

Funny how Iman's sarcastic response might have been the most insightful

Bob Vance

3/5/18 2:58pm

The thing I struggle with here is that it just sounds well written to shed a

Idahofallsblue

8/14/18 7:59pm

I come here from the future. This is all mostly true.

idacoug

5/6/20 9:14pm

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