and we have mandated that he take his XBox with him (I am tired of the fighting over whose turn it is). I was going to say no more console, but your post got me thinking that I might be looking at this all wrong. The kids are insistent that they want/need a game console. Maybe I should take this opportunity to get a console with the understanding that since _I_ own it, MY rules will apply (and no other consoles will be allowed in the home). I like the work for play rule as well as the time limitations and I am going to be more restrictive in the games they can load on the "family" console. Thanks for the post.