am I dumb or does that article have a surprising lack of facts or evidence

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Jan 26, 2015
8:46:10am

fattycoug

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Illegal immigrants the likely cause of measles outbreak.

BluePete

1/26/15 8:33am

I thought it was homeschoolers

Sea Chicken

1/26/15 8:36am

It was likely brought in from out of country

Blue Ghost

1/26/15 8:52am

"We don't believe in Darwinian self selection." {croaks over}

BluePete

1/26/15 8:56am

am I dumb or does that article have a surprising lack of facts or evidence

fattycoug

1/26/15 8:46am

The one useful fact that it had was this

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 8:52am

What do you expect from a site called "Gateway Pundit"?

chago04

1/26/15 9:00am

even assuming these "illegal alien youths" are the source of the measles

nashty

1/26/15 8:51am

{where's the bleeding heart button when you need it?}

BluePete

1/26/15 8:54am

Your assumption is not necessarily true

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 8:57am

Here is a chart showing the number of cases not deaths

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:01am

Quote from your article shows they are misleading with that deaths graphic

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:28am

I do agree on the graph. I hadn't noticed that it was deaths and not cases

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 10:50am

Thank white anti-vaxers

AxelDC

1/26/15 8:58am

Your last paragraph is all emotion and silly. We don't know who patient 0 is, so

Iman23

1/26/15 9:15am

We dont know who patient 0 is so lets blame the immigrants

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:17am

Never said that. But it's equally as reasonable as Axel's assertion, which also

Iman23

1/26/15 9:20am

Also, only some of the Disneyland kids were unvaccinated

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 9:23am

Most were unvaccinated

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:24am

Six were vaccinated, though

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 9:28am

out of what 70?

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:29am

6 out of 37 at the time. Not sure what the count would be now.

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 10:49am

If these americans had vaccinated the outbreak would be limited no matter the

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:23am

BluePete just said that at the top

AxelDC

1/26/15 10:56am

It's a reasonable starting assumption. Measles is not well controlled south

mikeynolikey

1/26/15 9:26am

They have an 89% vaccination rate. The US vaccination rate is 91%

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:26am

Mexico wouldn't be the problem, Central America might be

Blue Ghost

1/26/15 9:30am

I think Honduras is the lowest in central america at 85%

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:37am

Misleading becasue that's the whole population...It's very likely that a large %

Iman23

1/26/15 9:46am

That could be

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:51am

When it comes to Measles though, the majority of the blame goes to the Anti-Vacs

Blue Ghost

1/26/15 9:56am

I've read Guatamala is consistently bad at measle immunizations.

Blue Ghost

1/26/15 9:51am

According to WHO stats, there were 4512 suspected measles cases in Mexico last

mikeynolikey

1/26/15 9:41am

Strange that there were only 2 confirmed cases

concolor couguar

1/26/15 9:49am

Not so strange when you consider Mexico doesn't dedicate resources to lab

mikeynolikey

1/26/15 9:58am

I was referring to the website in the OP

concolor couguar

1/26/15 10:06am

Ok, I agree, by the way, that declining vaccination rates here is a problem, but

mikeynolikey

1/26/15 10:12am

themselves and others who cant be vaccinated or those for whom the vaccine fails

concolor couguar

1/26/15 10:15am

Accusing Hispanics is racist

AxelDC

1/26/15 10:55am

It's funny that you assumed he meant Hispanics. So only Hispanics are Illegals?

SolidBlue

1/26/15 6:06pm

LOL at the thumbs down crowd.

BluePete

1/26/15 9:28am

Thanks for being brave enough to post this! The wicked take the truth 2 be hard!

Non-donor troll

1/26/15 12:41pm

Yeah, those wicked people who don't believe that illegals are the problem to all

Robert Newman

1/27/15 11:50am

OK, but you know who didn't get measles? Vaccinated people, that's who.

Turnpike Lane

1/26/15 10:19am

Actually they did. At least six were vaccinated.

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 10:53am

Do you really believe vaccinations do not work in the vast majority of cases?

concolor couguar

1/26/15 12:07pm

I have never made that claim. Just saying that his claim is incorrect.

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 12:32pm

Is that a no?

concolor couguar

1/26/15 12:34pm

Does it matter? I'm not an anti-vaxxer. All my kids were vaccinated 10-20

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 12:44pm

Does any of this matter? I am simply curious

concolor couguar

1/26/15 12:48pm

Im sorry you had a family member become ill

concolor couguar

1/26/15 12:50pm

I love the right's attempts to distract from the anti-vaxxers and hijack this

DapperDan

1/26/15 10:19am

I don't love the left's blissful denial that illegal (and unscreened)

mikeynolikey

1/26/15 10:25am

Make the argument that unscreened immigration is a potential avenue for

concolor couguar

1/26/15 12:06pm

Most anti-vaxers are far right conservative nut jobs.

Virginia Ute

1/26/15 12:33pm

Which is kind of funny when you think about it. In the 60s and 70s the

Northwest Cougar

1/26/15 1:46pm

it is interesting to see the switch. There are some yuppies out there who

Virginia Ute

1/26/15 3:55pm

I think you are underestimating the lefts ability to ignore science

concolor couguar

1/26/15 4:04pm

The extremes on both sides are the ones who do it.

Virginia Ute

1/26/15 4:25pm

Wow. You are who I thought you were and this post confirms it.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/26/15 8:53pm

Posting /= position on a topic. Nice try.

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