Isn't there an argument that G5 teams can't win in P5 conferences. utah seemed to be proving that rule for a bit and Colorado definitely is. So would it not help the dialogue change to say that but could compete week in and week out but it might take a couple years? I don't know, I hate seeing them do so well while we struggle but honestly there is a bit of truth in them doing well helping the discussion of byus viability in a p5 conference.