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Apr 24, 2024
10:04:22am

BYU Grounds Intervention Needed

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Messages

Author

Time

Bush regains his Heisman

Indy Coug

Apr 24, 7:03am

I am just waiting for Dave Rose to get his wins back

Carnac

Apr 24, 7:05am

RE: I am just waiting for Dave Rose to get his wings back

RexIdaCoug

Apr 24, 7:06am

Long overdue. Fight on!

creameryon9th

Apr 24, 7:08am

Huge news. Love that Reggie gets it back Fight On baby! ✌️✌️✌️

Kolipoki

Apr 24, 7:08am

OJ Simpson reacts

vagabonder

Apr 24, 7:11am

That dude, was incredible in college.

grosven

Apr 24, 7:15am

He was in a class above everyone else, often the winner is indistinguishable

Rhubarb

Apr 24, 7:20am

So he cheated then. But now that cheating is ok now, it is retroactively

Iman23

Apr 24, 7:16am

Reinstate Dave Rose's wins too.

whirl

Apr 24, 7:18am

Absolutely. Rose didn't cheat. It was Slick Nick who took the Jetta

VB2

Apr 24, 8:18am

His "cheating" wasn't related to his performance

cougarfann888

Apr 24, 7:25am

Netflix literally made a documentary on manziel cheating and yet no action taken

creameryon9th

Apr 24, 7:31am

He didn’t cheat to win. Regardless of how he got to USC, his play still warranted the Heisman

RealTaysomHill

Apr 24, 7:44am

You think every team was paying players but Bush wasn't using PEDs?

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:07am

What does getting paid have to do with PEDs?

carlstud

Apr 24, 8:11am

RE: What does getting paid have to do with PEDs?

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:21am

That doesn’t clarify what you implied

carlstud

Apr 24, 9:09am

And what, specifically, do you think I implied?

Gustav

Apr 24, 9:52am

A stranger world view is assuming guys who get paid also use PEDs. Bush got in trouble for accepting gifts from a donor

RealTaysomHill

Apr 24, 9:12am

Where did I say I assumed he was using PEDs because he got paid?

Gustav

Apr 24, 9:56am

how did he cheat?

Deleted

Apr 24, 7:45am

He received some benefits he shouldn't have, cheating is wrong word

Dr T-bone

Apr 24, 7:56am

So the grownups like his parents?

DiamondMo

Apr 24, 8:48am

Entire programs have done worse than him and haven’t been punished

arcawley

Apr 24, 9:13am

What a strange, sad world we live in.

Mitty

Apr 24, 9:28am

We like to subject history to our current standards these days.

seacougar

Apr 24, 9:35am

Explain how he cheated and how that merits taking away his Heisman.

EDthoracotomy

Apr 24, 10:57am

Armstrong going to get back all his Tour de France wins now

Magneto

Apr 24, 12:13pm

stupid. the guy cheated pure and simple

byujag

Apr 24, 7:19am

To his credit, he has never admitted to taking anything, in fact, unless it’s recently been dismissed. He was suing the

JOPE

Apr 24, 7:29am

I love how people always kid themselves that it was only the SEC paying players

Corn Pop

Apr 24, 7:37am

Don't care if he took money, didn't affect his play. Guy was incredible in CFB.

Diablo and Doc

Apr 24, 7:38am

Not like anything he did was performance enhancing, and what he did on the field

ZacSeljaas'Stache

Apr 24, 8:29am

Call it whatever you want. Dude should never have had his trophy taken away.

EDthoracotomy

Apr 24, 10:58am

Now put Pete Rose in the Baseball HOF

pegushin

Apr 24, 7:22am

gambling on your own sports is not legal in any league

tamasiaina

Apr 24, 8:08am

Dumb. Rules were in effect at the time and breaking them rendered an unfair

Gustav

Apr 24, 7:22am

So, vacate wins for the team. But Bush deserves the Heisman. Individual award.

Hiccupless

Apr 24, 7:34am

so the guy who actually cheated gets away with it while the rest of the team suffers?

byujag

Apr 24, 7:37am

How did he cheat?

RealTaysomHill

Apr 24, 7:47am

How did breaking the rules give them an advantage?

HRCougar

Apr 24, 7:43am

Obviously nobody would go to USC without getting paid like Bush. Bad location, no history, awful coach, team wasn’t good

RealTaysomHill

Apr 24, 7:50am

RE: How did breaking the rules give them an advantage?

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:01am

Dumb. He knowingly broke the rules that existed at the time.

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 7:57am

The only reason I agree with this is the way NCAA punishes teams is not fair

tamasiaina

Apr 24, 8:07am

Did he ever even publicly apologize to his teammates?

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:08am

<< Deleted >>

ColonelMustard

Apr 24, 8:07am

So BYU’s vacated wins due to Nick Emery’s rule breaking will be restored now?

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:11am

Only if the Heisman committee runs the NCAA. They don't.

HenderCoug

Apr 24, 5:23pm

As others state, courts have ruled that what Bush did should have been legal

NYC and Japan

Apr 24, 8:11am

Does this mean that Dave Rose gets his wins back that were vacated due to

VB2

Apr 24, 8:18am

619!!!!

CrashMcLarson

Apr 24, 8:56am

Uh, that's not how this works. NCAA still out there making nonsense.

Mitty

Apr 24, 9:28am

The NCAA has nothing to do with the Heisman Trophy decisions

molodyets

Apr 24, 9:49pm

SMU would like to talk to the NCAA...

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