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Nov 24, 2014
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Walter Bellhaven
The logic that every coordinator promoted to HC
From now on will be only as good or worse than Bronco, is 10x more ridiculous. You're right though, we'll just disagree.
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Can anyone give me a 5 man short list
byukarl
11/24/14 7:45am
I haven't seen five even removing the Head Coach
CasualFan
11/24/14 7:49am
thats my problem as well
byukarl
11/24/14 7:52am
Let's keep him because we could never find someone else to hire.
Mike Ross
11/24/14 8:03am
Unless he completely loses the program you don't do that
byukarl
11/24/14 8:20am
Don't do what? Keep him?
Mike Ross
11/24/14 8:51am
What about 7-6 followed up by 5-7?
concolor couguar
11/24/14 9:40am
Why #2? Bronco and KWhitt didn't meet that criteria before BYU offered them.
russkiejedi
11/24/14 7:51am
because everyone is whining
byukarl
11/24/14 7:56am
I'm actually "whining" that Bronco turned over what he does best to a neophyte.
russkiejedi
11/24/14 7:59am
Are you suggesting Howel is one of the three Neophytes?
swingcat
11/24/14 9:17am
because he wants to create so many requirements that only 2 guys can fill them
concolor couguar
11/24/14 8:11am
I can't think of 5 that meet your conditions.
Walter Bellhaven
11/24/14 7:55am
And that's why it would be a mistake to fire
byukarl
11/24/14 7:59am
I guess that depends on who YOU are.
Walter Bellhaven
11/24/14 8:02am
And no one at the BOT cares who YOU are either
byukarl
11/24/14 8:06am
That's fine, but then again, I wasn't the one trying to set the standard.
Walter Bellhaven
11/24/14 8:07am
RE: And that's why it would be a mistake to fire
swingcat
11/24/14 9:22am
can you give me even one, for sure option?
byukarl
11/24/14 8:00am
The only one I can think of is Kenny N, but he's not much of an upgrade.
Hambone
11/24/14 8:03am
Nope. In fact, even KW and Bronco didn't meet your standards before
Walter Bellhaven
11/24/14 8:04am
My point is that you hire a real HC if you fire him
byukarl
11/24/14 8:12am
Couple things.
Walter Bellhaven
11/24/14 8:17am
I guess we'll just disagree
byukarl
11/24/14 8:24am
The logic that every coordinator promoted to HC
Walter Bellhaven
11/24/14 8:28am
#3 goes both ways. If the BOT wants a pool of candidates
TNT
11/24/14 7:55am
I'd love to hire Leach ... But
byukarl
11/24/14 7:58am
Leach is an interesting case. TNT would guess that his personality
TNT
11/24/14 7:59am
I've heard he isn't very active
byukarl
11/24/14 8:03am
Yeah. As long as someone is willing to live and uphold the standards
TNT
11/24/14 8:04am
He is now.
Gentleman Stan
11/24/14 9:37am
Because we've been so happy with offense and no defense this season.
cougarick
11/24/14 8:01am
And "you all" whined about the offense with Doman
byukarl
11/24/14 8:28am
Don't think it's too much to ask that one side not be completely crappy
cougarick
11/24/14 8:34am
This is what you'd get with Leach. If this is what you want ...
fan_byu
11/24/14 9:00am
I agree. I think BYU could have picked him up as an OC
reddead
11/24/14 9:21am
#2 is unnecessary and #4 is unknowable.
sakar12
11/24/14 8:07am
#2 is unnecessary???
byukarl
11/24/14 8:14am
It seems to be most of the critiscm is he went away from that model this year
concolor couguar
11/24/14 8:18am
Chris Peterson was an OC before HC. He did OK. Where do you think HCs come from?
jakespoon
11/24/14 9:35am
RE: Chris Peterson was an OC before HC. He did OK. Where do you think HCs come
concolor couguar
11/24/14 9:37am
Exactly.
jakespoon
11/24/14 9:44am
Bronco was awesome for 5 years. I'd hire him again in a heartbeat...
jakespoon
11/24/14 10:21am
Yes. As has been pointed out before, BM
sakar12
11/24/14 10:50am
Your #3 is very subjective...
teancum
11/24/14 8:12am
RE: Your #3 is very subjective...
byukarl
11/24/14 8:18am
Here is a quick list of HC's that had no college HC experience prior....
slatecoug
11/24/14 10:03am
I believe he has to be to have a temple recommend as well.
Cosmo's Kid
11/24/14 8:19am
Boardmail Tom Holmoe.
foofcoug
11/24/14 8:26am
Unfortunately he has TNT blocked
TNT
11/24/14 8:28am
By your standards, #2 disqualifies Reid.
slowhiteguy
11/24/14 8:29am
"Sadly, this (BYU football) feels like a sinking ship with no hope". - byukarl
Zach Morris
11/24/14 9:12am
You know Lavell had no HC experience when he took the BYU job?
slatecoug
11/24/14 9:25am
EVERY HC at some point had no HC experience. That is just ridiculous.
jakespoon
11/24/14 9:54am
Yes it is. But under his list our most successful HC would be DQ'ed from the job
slatecoug
11/24/14 10:08am
And he's claiming it didn't work. It absolutely worked. For 5 years!
jakespoon
11/24/14 10:22am
Bingo. Major flaw with the OP has been uncovered.
Walter Bellhaven
11/24/14 10:30am
You don't need 5, you only need 1.
lawboy
11/24/14 9:25am
A rising star like Urb (a HC) will never use BYU as a stepping stone.
jakespoon
11/24/14 9:43am
Also, chances are, if he's a HC somewhere else, there's a reason he's looking
jakespoon
11/24/14 9:53am
hmmm, I thought a condition was that the head coach should not be a PR mook
sundance
11/24/14 10:01am
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slatecoug
11/24/14 10:06am
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