"Sadly, this (BYU football) feels like a sinking ship with no hope". - byukarl

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Nov 24, 2014
9:12:20am

Zach Morris

"Sadly, this (BYU football) feels like a sinking ship with no hope". - byukarl

I can't tell if you're in your positive mood today or your "whiny" mood? Almost sounds indifferent today. Unlike the day you posted that there was "no hope".

After all the whining about the whiners and all the overly positive posts, I'm glad we have you to play both sides depending on how you feel that day.

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Zach Morris

Previous username: CB4
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Joined: Aug 24, 2009
Last login: Apr 26, 2024
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Can anyone give me a 5 man short list

byukarl

11/24/14 7:45am

I haven't seen five even removing the Head Coach

CasualFan

11/24/14 7:49am

thats my problem as well

byukarl

11/24/14 7:52am

Let's keep him because we could never find someone else to hire.

Mike Ross

11/24/14 8:03am

Unless he completely loses the program you don't do that

byukarl

11/24/14 8:20am

Don't do what? Keep him?

Mike Ross

11/24/14 8:51am

What about 7-6 followed up by 5-7?

concolor couguar

11/24/14 9:40am

I can't think of 5 that meet your conditions.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 7:55am

And that's why it would be a mistake to fire

byukarl

11/24/14 7:59am

I guess that depends on who YOU are.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:02am

And no one at the BOT cares who YOU are either

byukarl

11/24/14 8:06am

That's fine, but then again, I wasn't the one trying to set the standard.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:07am

RE: And that's why it would be a mistake to fire

swingcat

11/24/14 9:22am

can you give me even one, for sure option?

byukarl

11/24/14 8:00am

The only one I can think of is Kenny N, but he's not much of an upgrade.

Hambone

11/24/14 8:03am

Nope. In fact, even KW and Bronco didn't meet your standards before

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:04am

My point is that you hire a real HC if you fire him

byukarl

11/24/14 8:12am

Couple things.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:17am

I guess we'll just disagree

byukarl

11/24/14 8:24am

The logic that every coordinator promoted to HC

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:28am

Ot would be very dificult to end up in worse shape..

11/24/14 10:11am

I did and it's NOT my job to know that.

11/24/14 10:08am

#3 goes both ways. If the BOT wants a pool of candidates

TNT

11/24/14 7:55am

I'd love to hire Leach ... But

byukarl

11/24/14 7:58am

Leach is an interesting case. TNT would guess that his personality

TNT

11/24/14 7:59am

I've heard he isn't very active

byukarl

11/24/14 8:03am

Yeah. As long as someone is willing to live and uphold the standards

TNT

11/24/14 8:04am

He is now.

11/24/14 9:37am

Because we've been so happy with offense and no defense this season.

cougarick

11/24/14 8:01am

And "you all" whined about the offense with Doman

byukarl

11/24/14 8:28am

Don't think it's too much to ask that one side not be completely crappy

cougarick

11/24/14 8:34am

This is what you'd get with Leach. If this is what you want ...

fan_byu

11/24/14 9:00am

I agree. I think BYU could have picked him up as an OC

reddead

11/24/14 9:21am

#2 is unnecessary and #4 is unknowable.

sakar12

11/24/14 8:07am

#2 is unnecessary???

byukarl

11/24/14 8:14am

It seems to be most of the critiscm is he went away from that model this year

concolor couguar

11/24/14 8:18am

Chris Peterson was an OC before HC. He did OK. Where do you think HCs come from?

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:35am

RE: Chris Peterson was an OC before HC. He did OK. Where do you think HCs come

concolor couguar

11/24/14 9:37am

Exactly.

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:44am

Bronco was awesome for 5 years. I'd hire him again in a heartbeat...

jakespoon

11/24/14 10:21am

Yes. As has been pointed out before, BM

sakar12

11/24/14 10:50am

Your #3 is very subjective...

teancum

11/24/14 8:12am

RE: Your #3 is very subjective...

byukarl

11/24/14 8:18am

Here is a quick list of HC's that had no college HC experience prior....

slatecoug

11/24/14 10:03am

I believe he has to be to have a temple recommend as well.

Cosmo's Kid

11/24/14 8:19am

Boardmail Tom Holmoe.

foofcoug

11/24/14 8:26am

Unfortunately he has TNT blocked

TNT

11/24/14 8:28am

By your standards, #2 disqualifies Reid.

slowhiteguy

11/24/14 8:29am

"Sadly, this (BYU football) feels like a sinking ship with no hope". - byukarl

Zach Morris

11/24/14 9:12am

You know Lavell had no HC experience when he took the BYU job?

slatecoug

11/24/14 9:25am

EVERY HC at some point had no HC experience. That is just ridiculous.

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:54am

Yes it is. But under his list our most successful HC would be DQ'ed from the job

slatecoug

11/24/14 10:08am

And he's claiming it didn't work. It absolutely worked. For 5 years!

jakespoon

11/24/14 10:22am

Technicaly it has worked all TEN ....

11/24/14 10:45am

Bingo. Major flaw with the OP has been uncovered.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 10:30am

You don't need 5, you only need 1.

lawboy

11/24/14 9:25am

A rising star like Urb (a HC) will never use BYU as a stepping stone.

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:43am

Also, chances are, if he's a HC somewhere else, there's a reason he's looking

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:53am

hmmm, I thought a condition was that the head coach should not be a PR mook

sundance

11/24/14 10:01am

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slatecoug

11/24/14 10:06am

Leach, Andersen, Whit, Niamatolu, Andrus, Stubbs. NOW STOP

11/24/14 10:07am

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