Jan 3, 2014
7:10:08am
7:10:08am
Defenestrator is not telling the whole story. The ARGO float network, which is the most complete coverage of ocean temperature readings ever and has been in place since 2003 shows no warming in annual vertical mean temperatures (0 - 2000 meters) in the Pacific Ocean Basin (the largest ocean basin) and evidence of cooling in the North Atlantic. The only place it shows warming is in the Indian and South Atlantic Oceans. If CO2 is a well-mixed greenhouse gas, then why is ocean warming only showing up in those two ocean basins?
Also, the data for the Pacific Ocean basin from 0-700 meters shows substantial cooling, but warming from the 700 - 2000 meter depth. How is it that the warming is not showing up (or passing through) the ocean's top 700 meters and embedding itself below it??? And here's the kicker, the annual variation in temperature at depths of 700 to 2000 meters are in thousandths of a degree C. Anybody who thinks we can accurately measure ocean temperatures at that depth with that type of accuracy is full of it. In other words, the "missing heat" may not even exist. We're measuring noise.
The Meehl study that Defenestrator cites, is a model-based study and climate models have been shown to be completely unreliable in accurately depicting ENSO as noted in this review.
"Despite this progress, recent multimodel analyses show that serious systematic errors in the simulated background climate (time mean and annual cycle; see the sidebar 'Tropical Pacific mean state and annual cycle performance in CGCMs' below for more information) as well as in the simulated natural variability persist (van Oldenborgh et al. 2005; Guilyardi 2006;
Capotondi et al. 2006; Wittenberg et al. 2006). Several studies pointed out that these coupled model errors can often be traced to the atmosphere component (Braconnot et al. 2007; L'Ecuyer and Stephens 2007; Sun et al. 2009)."
http://www.knmi.nl/publications/fulltexts/guilyardi_al_bams09.pdf
And the specific model used by Meehl et al in particular doesn't properly simulate the coupled ocean-atmosphere processes that drive ENSO.
The attempt by global warming enthusiasts to claim that the "missing" heat is found in the deep ocean fails in just about every way.
Also, the data for the Pacific Ocean basin from 0-700 meters shows substantial cooling, but warming from the 700 - 2000 meter depth. How is it that the warming is not showing up (or passing through) the ocean's top 700 meters and embedding itself below it??? And here's the kicker, the annual variation in temperature at depths of 700 to 2000 meters are in thousandths of a degree C. Anybody who thinks we can accurately measure ocean temperatures at that depth with that type of accuracy is full of it. In other words, the "missing heat" may not even exist. We're measuring noise.
The Meehl study that Defenestrator cites, is a model-based study and climate models have been shown to be completely unreliable in accurately depicting ENSO as noted in this review.
"Despite this progress, recent multimodel analyses show that serious systematic errors in the simulated background climate (time mean and annual cycle; see the sidebar 'Tropical Pacific mean state and annual cycle performance in CGCMs' below for more information) as well as in the simulated natural variability persist (van Oldenborgh et al. 2005; Guilyardi 2006;
Capotondi et al. 2006; Wittenberg et al. 2006). Several studies pointed out that these coupled model errors can often be traced to the atmosphere component (Braconnot et al. 2007; L'Ecuyer and Stephens 2007; Sun et al. 2009)."
http://www.knmi.nl/publications/fulltexts/guilyardi_al_bams09.pdf
And the specific model used by Meehl et al in particular doesn't properly simulate the coupled ocean-atmosphere processes that drive ENSO.
The attempt by global warming enthusiasts to claim that the "missing" heat is found in the deep ocean fails in just about every way.
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