The right to coin a name and use it is inherently a free speech issue IMO.

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Aug 19, 2014
9:56:39pm

HawkCat

Provided, of course, it hasn't already been coined and protected by someone else first.

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HawkCat

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Advice to Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder:

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:17pm

I'd like to hear why he loves the name so much or why he

BW84

8/19/14 9:19pm

Why change it? It's been around since the 30s.

Crush4

8/19/14 9:21pm

It definitely sounds like a name that some white dude dreamt up in the 30s

Japan Coug

8/19/14 9:31pm

So let's all get offended in 2014.

Crush4

8/19/14 9:34pm

Here's a movie clip produced in the 30s, probably by the same guy who dreamt up

Japan Coug

8/19/14 9:41pm

Holy crap

canadiancougar624

8/19/14 10:07pm

was

HONKYTONKMAN

8/19/14 11:07pm

Here is a much more main stream acceped and appropriate clip

CarolinaCoug

8/20/14 11:06am

That's the worst argument for not changing something ever

El Joffrey

8/19/14 9:46pm

NFL team names threaten you and your family. Run.

Crush4

8/19/14 9:53pm

Some recent franchise name changes have given us these gems...

StantonMac

8/19/14 9:38pm

Right... Changed to Wizards from the Bullets... Like the Bullets is a name to

BW84

8/19/14 10:44pm

Those are crzy offensive.

Supercoug

8/19/14 9:19pm

RE: Advice to Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder:

southernfriedcougar

8/19/14 9:24pm

you really don't see a difference in the names you list and

Baron

8/19/14 9:24pm

So only appearance-based nicknames are being targeted?

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:43pm

First, you honestly still do not see a difference in the names? If you don't

Baron

8/19/14 9:46pm

I see speech issues when a court strikes down a registered trademark

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:52pm

Trademark rights are guaranteed by the 1st amendment, you know that right?

Baron

8/19/14 9:53pm

The right to coin a name and use it is inherently a free speech issue IMO.

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:56pm

Well I didn't know we were basing this discussion on your personal

Baron

8/19/14 10:02pm

You also can't yell "fire" in a theater.

HawkCat

8/19/14 10:12pm

I understand the 1st amendment. I don't believe you do.

Baron

8/19/14 10:15pm

What "court" struck it down?

Supercoug

8/19/14 9:54pm

RE: What "court" struck it down?

HawkCat

8/19/14 10:03pm

So we both agree that it wasn't actually a court?

Supercoug

8/20/14 4:39am

you seem to be avoiding answering a specific question

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:57pm

What would that question be?

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:59pm

c'mon, it was asked several times in this thread

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:02pm

Whether "Redskin" is offensive on a higher level is not the issue.

HawkCat

8/19/14 10:10pm

I don't agree with your assesment on what is and itsn' the issue

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:16pm

No government entity is forcing the change. Your premise is off.

Supercoug

8/20/14 4:40am

So the TTAB isn't a government agency?

HawkCat

8/20/14 11:41pm

Even they cannot take the name away. Sorry.

Supercoug

8/21/14 6:17am

Again, obtuse.

HawkCat

8/21/14 9:09pm

How so? Your premise is wrong. So you go ad hominem. Predictable.

Supercoug

8/21/14 9:14pm

No one is arguing it is illegal to have the redskins name.

El Joffrey

8/19/14 9:50pm

I don't know. Baron appears to think it may not be a free speech issue.

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:53pm

you think "Redskin" has historically been a term of respect?

Supercoug

8/19/14 9:53pm

it may have been, when minorities didn't really have much say in what

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:56pm

I don't care what is also being trageted. I disagree with getting rid of many of

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:54pm

should we get rid of the name patriots out of "respect" for the british?

ds7

8/19/14 10:09pm

no. just like Seminoles, Scots, etc Patriots is not offensive

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:17pm

are you british?

ds7

8/19/14 10:23pm

yes, I am british by decent. I can't think of a rational reason why patriot woul

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:47pm

Maybe, but I certainly don't see a difference between the Washington Redskins

P-townCoug

8/19/14 10:51pm

I hear the Minnesota NFL franchise originally wanted to call themselves the

Japan Coug

8/19/14 9:28pm

That's a lot of racial slurs there. I don't think that's allowed on CB

DapperDan

8/19/14 9:32pm

If you think redskins is the same type of nickname as any of those..

El Joffrey

8/19/14 9:32pm

and what about blackhawks?

ds7

8/19/14 9:55pm

what about chiefs?

ds7

8/19/14 10:07pm

what about braves?

ds7

8/19/14 10:12pm

what about indians?

ds7

8/19/14 10:13pm

what about utes?

ds7

8/19/14 10:21pm

what about seminoles?

ds7

8/19/14 10:22pm

You're batting 0.000, keep up the good work!

DapperDan

8/19/14 10:34pm

hilarious that you don't realize each of those names has been "targeted" at

ds7

8/19/14 10:46pm

hilarious that you continue to avoid the point

DapperDan

8/19/14 10:58pm

there is no point...that's the point of political correctness run amok

ds7

8/19/14 11:06pm

That's an appropriate setting given your tactics

DapperDan

8/19/14 11:13pm

it was (and probably still is) offensive to some and those who didn't find it

fattycoug

8/19/14 11:16pm

There may actually be people with more nuanced opinions on the subject

fattycoug

8/19/14 11:12pm

you mean the PC police who went after robin lopez for wearing this shirt?

ds7

8/19/14 11:34pm

I am making the argument that the Redskins name is offensive. I'm NOT making

fattycoug

8/19/14 11:47pm

face it, you're just not sensitive enough...

ds7

8/19/14 11:48pm

Because in DS7's world, you're only a regular dude if you agree with him and

Japan Coug

8/20/14 5:57am

mike ditka responds...

ds7

8/20/14 1:35pm

I want to punch the person that thought "Fighting Scots" was cool in the mouth!

svenot

8/19/14 9:37pm

i never even made the connection that people see it as a sterotype

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:43pm

Every single one of those is so different than Redskins

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:40pm

Shouldn't Oklahoma have to change its name as well?

Rusty Shackleford

8/19/14 9:42pm

Aren't knickerbockers just pants?

Walter Bellhaven

8/19/14 9:42pm

always remember...before the utes they were the redskins...

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