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Aug 19, 2014
11:16:00pm

fattycoug

it was (and probably still is) offensive to some and those who didn't find it

offensive won out. Perhaps some people switched sides. Perhaps it had to do with money. Maybe it had to do with the school being more careful how things were portrayed.

None of that makes the term Red Skin any less intrinsically racist and offensive. Just because we were desensitized to it, doesn't make it better.

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fattycoug

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Advice to Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder:

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:17pm

I'd like to hear why he loves the name so much or why he

BW84

8/19/14 9:19pm

Why change it? It's been around since the 30s.

Crush4

8/19/14 9:21pm

It definitely sounds like a name that some white dude dreamt up in the 30s

Japan Coug

8/19/14 9:31pm

So let's all get offended in 2014.

Crush4

8/19/14 9:34pm

Here's a movie clip produced in the 30s, probably by the same guy who dreamt up

Japan Coug

8/19/14 9:41pm

Holy crap

canadiancougar624

8/19/14 10:07pm

was

8/19/14 11:07pm

Here is a much more main stream acceped and appropriate clip

8/20/14 11:06am

That's the worst argument for not changing something ever

El Joffrey

8/19/14 9:46pm

NFL team names threaten you and your family. Run.

Crush4

8/19/14 9:53pm

Some recent franchise name changes have given us these gems...

StantonMac

8/19/14 9:38pm

Right... Changed to Wizards from the Bullets... Like the Bullets is a name to

BW84

8/19/14 10:44pm

Those are crzy offensive.

Supercoug

8/19/14 9:19pm

RE: Advice to Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder:

southernfriedcougar

8/19/14 9:24pm

you really don't see a difference in the names you list and

Baron

8/19/14 9:24pm

So only appearance-based nicknames are being targeted?

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:43pm

First, you honestly still do not see a difference in the names? If you don't

Baron

8/19/14 9:46pm

I see speech issues when a court strikes down a registered trademark

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:52pm

Trademark rights are guaranteed by the 1st amendment, you know that right?

Baron

8/19/14 9:53pm

The right to coin a name and use it is inherently a free speech issue IMO.

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:56pm

Well I didn't know we were basing this discussion on your personal

Baron

8/19/14 10:02pm

You also can't yell "fire" in a theater.

HawkCat

8/19/14 10:12pm

I understand the 1st amendment. I don't believe you do.

Baron

8/19/14 10:15pm

What "court" struck it down?

Supercoug

8/19/14 9:54pm

RE: What "court" struck it down?

HawkCat

8/19/14 10:03pm

So we both agree that it wasn't actually a court?

Supercoug

8/20/14 4:39am

you seem to be avoiding answering a specific question

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:57pm

What would that question be?

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:59pm

c'mon, it was asked several times in this thread

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:02pm

Whether "Redskin" is offensive on a higher level is not the issue.

HawkCat

8/19/14 10:10pm

I don't agree with your assesment on what is and itsn' the issue

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:16pm

No government entity is forcing the change. Your premise is off.

Supercoug

8/20/14 4:40am

So the TTAB isn't a government agency?

HawkCat

8/20/14 11:41pm

Even they cannot take the name away. Sorry.

Supercoug

8/21/14 6:17am

Again, obtuse.

HawkCat

8/21/14 9:09pm

How so? Your premise is wrong. So you go ad hominem. Predictable.

Supercoug

8/21/14 9:14pm

No one is arguing it is illegal to have the redskins name.

El Joffrey

8/19/14 9:50pm

I don't know. Baron appears to think it may not be a free speech issue.

HawkCat

8/19/14 9:53pm

you think "Redskin" has historically been a term of respect?

Supercoug

8/19/14 9:53pm

it may have been, when minorities didn't really have much say in what

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:56pm

I don't care what is also being trageted. I disagree with getting rid of many of

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:54pm

should we get rid of the name patriots out of "respect" for the british?

ds7

8/19/14 10:09pm

no. just like Seminoles, Scots, etc Patriots is not offensive

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:17pm

are you british?

ds7

8/19/14 10:23pm

yes, I am british by decent. I can't think of a rational reason why patriot woul

fattycoug

8/19/14 10:47pm

Maybe, but I certainly don't see a difference between the Washington Redskins

P-townCoug

8/19/14 10:51pm

I hear the Minnesota NFL franchise originally wanted to call themselves the

Japan Coug

8/19/14 9:28pm

That's a lot of racial slurs there. I don't think that's allowed on CB

DapperDan

8/19/14 9:32pm

If you think redskins is the same type of nickname as any of those..

El Joffrey

8/19/14 9:32pm

and what about blackhawks?

ds7

8/19/14 9:55pm

what about chiefs?

ds7

8/19/14 10:07pm

what about braves?

ds7

8/19/14 10:12pm

what about indians?

ds7

8/19/14 10:13pm

what about utes?

ds7

8/19/14 10:21pm

what about seminoles?

ds7

8/19/14 10:22pm

You're batting 0.000, keep up the good work!

DapperDan

8/19/14 10:34pm

hilarious that you don't realize each of those names has been "targeted" at

ds7

8/19/14 10:46pm

hilarious that you continue to avoid the point

DapperDan

8/19/14 10:58pm

there is no point...that's the point of political correctness run amok

ds7

8/19/14 11:06pm

That's an appropriate setting given your tactics

DapperDan

8/19/14 11:13pm

it was (and probably still is) offensive to some and those who didn't find it

fattycoug

8/19/14 11:16pm

There may actually be people with more nuanced opinions on the subject

fattycoug

8/19/14 11:12pm

you mean the PC police who went after robin lopez for wearing this shirt?

ds7

8/19/14 11:34pm

I am making the argument that the Redskins name is offensive. I'm NOT making

fattycoug

8/19/14 11:47pm

face it, you're just not sensitive enough...

ds7

8/19/14 11:48pm

Because in DS7's world, you're only a regular dude if you agree with him and

Japan Coug

8/20/14 5:57am

mike ditka responds...

ds7

8/20/14 1:35pm

I want to punch the person that thought "Fighting Scots" was cool in the mouth!

svenot

8/19/14 9:37pm

i never even made the connection that people see it as a sterotype

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:43pm

Every single one of those is so different than Redskins

fattycoug

8/19/14 9:40pm

Shouldn't Oklahoma have to change its name as well?

Rusty Shackleford

8/19/14 9:42pm

Aren't knickerbockers just pants?

Walter Bellhaven

8/19/14 9:42pm

always remember...before the utes they were the redskins...

ds7

8/19/14 9:57pm

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