make sure we all know that it was HE and others, apart from MM, who have gotten the ball rolling. Quite frankly, his post is no less self-aggrandizing than what others (including "kingranch") have accused MM's original post of being. Again, I find that attitude counterproductive to the attempts at encouraging others to attend the tailgating experiences. I hate having to figure out to whom I owe allegiance for all their efforts at getting tailgating going. That was a sad and silly exchange last night.