Just did a google search and this was one of the first articles and I just took to the fact with that quote I included that he was a VERY minor player in 1996 and looked up his info playing beyond that. Didn't seem like he was a stud we hooked our wagon to like some other players that came through BYU (I didn't even recognize his name) but from other posts it was sure sounding like he was patting himself on the back as someone who built the program....

Notice I didn't actually include any other aspects of the article in my post...