They beat Portland state by 2 tds, and Hawaii by 1. They have zero wins that mean anything. OSU is not better than every team BYU has played. UCLA beat Memphis at home by 7. However I never said they were bad, just overrated. PAC 12 is showing to be really middle heavy, with no great teams (maybe Oregon).

I never argued that BYU was good. I was pointing out that those saying utah is something to look to as if they are great is just false. What is your prediction for Utah's final record? I am curious since you think they are on their way.