He's not clueless, his management was.

Oct 31, 2014
11:09:40am

mudpupper

I've seen managers think the consultant is there to truly help them. They are there to make money. A smart manager can distinguish between the items his organization truly needs vs the up sell tactics of the consultant.

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mudpupper

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Whoah.....just lost it in a business meeting.

BoiseBlue

10/31/14 9:30am

That worked? I work in the wrong place. We see rants like those every day and

rggee

10/31/14 9:37am

Probably helps that I basically NEVER lose my temper.......

BoiseBlue

10/31/14 9:48am

Yup, the impact of the explosion is dependent on the frequency in part.

whirl

10/31/14 10:06am

Awesome!!! Sometimes you gotta kick some butt and take a few names

Texas Hammer

10/31/14 9:41am

Sometimes you have to push back

AxelDC

10/31/14 9:41am

Wow! Those are very harsh words. You really showed her!

Texas Hammer

10/31/14 9:44am

Deloitte and their types number 1 goal is to

bald man

10/31/14 9:46am

EXACTLY!!!!!!

BoiseBlue

10/31/14 9:50am

I've watched one of my previous company's shell out several millions

bald man

10/31/14 9:53am

It's all CYA. They want to warn you of every possible thing that could go wrong

frontrowcougar

10/31/14 9:55am

I'm dealing with Deloitte now also. I approve of this message.

flavordave

10/31/14 9:53am

Sounds like working with someone from Gartner

mudpupper

10/31/14 9:59am

Bingo. If I were ever to get into a position where I oversaw these engagements

bald man

10/31/14 10:05am

Your $250 per hr rate is WAAAAAAAY off on the low side

TeeKaa

10/31/14 10:13am

Yup, $200/hr is the minimum you can pay for the lowest level analyst

workindev

10/31/14 10:22am

And $800 - 900 for partners. $5-600 is the norm for senior individuals.

TeeKaa

10/31/14 4:36pm

As a business consultant, I can verify that this is 100% true

workindev

10/31/14 10:18am

Haha, how would Deloitte make money off the remedies? You're very clueless.

Byron McNertney

10/31/14 10:55am

So, you don't work in business, I take it.

bald man

10/31/14 10:59am

The opposite. I've actually been on "Deloitte's side" of these types of issues.

Byron McNertney

10/31/14 11:34am

Interesting. I guess all the times the Deloitte side suggested remedies

bald man

10/31/14 11:45am

There's a difference between a Sarbox audit (which is what the OP described) and

Byron McNertney

10/31/14 12:27pm

He's not clueless, his management was.

mudpupper

10/31/14 11:09am

You might want to read up on the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, SEC rules, GAAS, & PCAOB.

Byron McNertney

10/31/14 11:37am

I'm pretty sure a couple of our CIO's and other exec were getting

bald man

10/31/14 11:46am

Having been on both sides of the fence - you have to play hardball 24/7. They

BigD Coug

10/31/14 10:04am

Switching auditors to DT next year. Nervous as heck. I have history with them,

Pobs

10/31/14 10:50am

Deloitte, EY, PwC, KPMG, they're all the same.

BigD Coug

10/31/14 11:21am

I've never "lost it" and had a good result. Not even my honeymoon.

boogers

10/31/14 4:38pm

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