Now you are smart enough to know they took their lumps and are moving forward If BYU had jumped to the Big 12 we wouldn't have sniffed 4 wins a season.. Same with PAC under BM as well. You think with those Doman and Riley years we would have won 4 games in either? I seriously doubt it.

Gary should have been in the play offs this year. Utah won their Bowl game this year and did it in convincing fashion against a good team.

Kyle is an all around upgrade from BM. There is no question about it. He just needs to find an OC..which he is willing to do.