Link to clarify a few things regarding City Creek since it keeps coming up

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Dec 16, 2015
7:00:54am

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http://en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_church_integrity/City_Creek_Center_Mall_in_Salt_Lake_City

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Ulysses14

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I'm genuinely confused about BYU football in relation to the Church

macdizzle

12/15/15 10:05pm

RE: I'm genuinely confused about BYU football in relation to the Church

insidebyu

12/15/15 10:16pm

I don't disagree. But we can't have it both ways

macdizzle

12/15/15 10:21pm

HC interviewing with high GAs sends the same message

jpv

12/16/15 5:53pm

Yep

macdizzle

12/16/15 6:20pm

I've never understood this.

FatherOFive

12/16/15 8:14am

Wait a minute, Utah fans go to the temple?

Pacino

12/16/15 12:12pm

Widow's mite

lbm2051

12/15/15 10:18pm

The Church has plenty of money not generated from tithing. That's a red herring

macdizzle

12/15/15 10:22pm

I think you are way off in this comment. They are different and trying to conflate the two is disengenuous

thaws

12/16/15 9:26am

I'm not trying to conflate the two. I'm actually trying to separate them.

macdizzle

12/16/15 9:36am

I think they stick very closely with the idea of profit centers. They will not use other church owned for profit

thaws

12/16/15 9:48am

Fair points

macdizzle

12/16/15 10:01am

Is the widow's mite not appropriate to use to build the kingdom? What else would

GilaHank

12/15/15 10:31pm

Post is laughable. Seriously someone was concerned about that?

kotacoug

12/15/15 10:45pm

I thought no tithing was used for the shopping mall

Ulysses14

12/16/15 4:35am

RE: Widow's mite

kalifi

12/16/15 8:10am

just an idea

Y05

12/15/15 10:21pm

It's a very good question. If they want one of their priority targets,

LiquidUte

12/15/15 10:23pm

Temples are much more than that.

Niiineteeen84

12/15/15 10:24pm

Church needs to donate to BYU TV for content. BYU TV pays the football program.

Gene Frenkle

12/15/15 10:27pm

Is this some sort of money laundering scheme?

Bubba Gravity

12/15/15 10:28pm

I think it already works that way. Lots of grey water in there.

LiquidUte

12/15/15 10:30pm

BYU TV gets advertising dollars for BYU sports. They should pay like ESPN does.

Gene Frenkle

12/15/15 10:35pm

BYUTV's advertisers aren't paying Budweiser's ESPN rate.

jrj84105

12/15/15 10:43pm

BYU sports facilities donate way more to the church

HawkeyeCoug

12/16/15 6:50am

You think the AD raised the money to build and maintain those facilities?

jrj84105

12/16/15 9:30am

That is the way BYU operates

HawkeyeCoug

12/16/15 9:57am

Do you have evidence that BYUtv pays more to cover athletics than it receives in

panguitch

12/16/15 9:39am

I am just trying to create a way for the church to fund the program.

Gene Frenkle

12/16/15 4:24pm

preach brother...welcome to the club!

nashty

12/15/15 10:35pm

RE: preach brother...welcome to the club!

nashty

12/15/15 10:38pm

Do you really believe that the church pays market value for other professionals?

wcj99

12/15/15 10:35pm

I absolutely do. You ever met an attorney from Kirton Mcconkie?

macdizzle

12/15/15 10:40pm

exceptions like the professors at BYU, you don't have to look far

franklyvulgar

12/15/15 10:46pm

KM gives the church a huge discount on legal fees

Y'zFan

12/15/15 10:48pm

I have used 2 KM attorneys in the course of running my business

wcj99

12/15/15 11:09pm

Employees at headquarters generally get paid under market rate

panguitch

12/16/15 9:43am

It gets more confusing when you are allowed to criticize byu football, which

OliverGranger

12/15/15 10:55pm

Link to clarify a few things regarding City Creek since it keeps coming up

Ulysses14

12/16/15 7:00am

Did you seriously just post an anti-mormon site on cougarboard? *SMH*

Wingnut

12/16/15 7:06am

FairMormon is an apologetics site. Not anti

Cachanilla83

12/16/15 7:36am

You're joking right?

Ulysses14

12/16/15 8:38am

I'm genuinely confused about how a BYU coaching search is morphed into an

LV Mike

12/15/15 11:01pm

You're right. I'll repent. I shouldn't be concerned about coaching compensation.

macdizzle

12/15/15 11:16pm

You are a slithering troll. We both know who you are and what you

LV Mike

12/15/15 11:31pm

Wow that's quite a personal insult. How very Christian of you.

macdizzle

12/15/15 11:33pm

I am sorry the truth insults you. But, thanks for the compliment.

LV Mike

12/15/15 11:38pm

Are you kidding?

macdizzle

12/15/15 11:43pm

RE: Are you kidding?

OliverGranger

12/15/15 11:48pm

No. I'm not kidding. Calling you out for what you do here routinely.

LV Mike

12/15/15 11:48pm

Easy fellas. pretty sure scores of other CBers have said same thing mac is sayin

zerome4sooners

12/16/15 4:47am

They have. LVMike just likes to follow me around yelling

macdizzle

12/16/15 7:34am

No yelling here. I simply am not willing to march to the macdizzle

LV Mike

12/16/15 10:59am

I'm sorry that my unwillingness to mock anyone who asks a question causes you

macdizzle

12/16/15 11:35am

Good thoughts... If I were to venture one guess it would be it's risky. You neve

cougarmikey

12/15/15 11:14pm

The risk is the same if we pay under or on par with the market.

GA_Coug

12/15/15 11:38pm

Except for the thought that a man offered 4 million bucks(for argument sake) may

cougarmikey

12/15/15 11:56pm

RE: Except for the thought that a man offered 4 million bucks(for argument sake)

GA_Coug

12/16/15 7:37am

Not sure how the only other guys who were HC are bad examples..

cougarmikey

12/20/15 1:17am

Amen brother!

Kerbouchard

12/15/15 11:46pm

Pay shouldn't be the issue

Trent

12/16/15 12:05am

Im with you on everything you said except one thing

gurt

12/16/15 1:45am

The exchange rate on Heaven Credits is very good.

LiquidUte

12/16/15 2:02am

That I'm afraid is not very heavenly

byukarl

12/16/15 10:00am

I'm ok paying more for a coach - but not with tithing funds

Ulysses14

12/16/15 4:36am

You know what the problem is? The noise made by Utah mormons who don't like BYU.

panguitch

12/16/15 8:26am

I see your points and part of me feels the same, but there are some things to

IronPotato

12/16/15 9:17am

Fair points. And to be clear: I love City Creek. Awesome place.

macdizzle

12/16/15 9:21am

BYU-Africa would be much better publicity than City Creek

HawkeyeCoug

12/16/15 10:07am

*mental picture of the SLC temple on an oversized load trailer on I15*

panguitch

12/16/15 10:17am

Move it to Parowan not Panguich

HawkeyeCoug

12/16/15 10:51am

Be careful, LVMike will call you an anti-Mormon if you're not careful.

macdizzle

12/16/15 10:17am

Posted on wrong thread (NM)

HawkeyeCoug

12/16/15 10:48am

Skiers -- exactly the sort of rifraff we have to appease by building fancy malls

panguitch

12/16/15 10:51am

More important: BYU-Mexico, BYU-Brazil, BYU-Chile, and BYU-Phillipinnes

boscatar

12/16/15 9:27am

Church Ball: International Tournament Edition (I like it!)

panguitch

12/16/15 9:32am

Actually, the church only approaches market value in a few, select

PhilPete

12/16/15 9:29am

big difference between Church leadership and administration officials

byukarl

12/16/15 9:58am

You want to know.. ask Church Vendors..

byukarl

12/16/15 9:52am

Anyone upset over how much the church spends should be glad they're not Muslim

SpiffCoug

12/16/15 10:23am

As an ALUF, I've asked myself the same question many times...doesn't make sense

Zoob Lover

12/16/15 10:45am

^^^U fan setting aside partisanship for rationality... Respect

jpv

12/16/15 6:29pm

Oh dear, now LVMike will call you an Anti-Mormon

macdizzle

12/16/15 6:33pm

"the" church or your church, or the mormon church.

LVCougarFan

12/16/15 11:01am

Chill out...!

Zoob Lover

12/16/15 11:33am

RE: Chill out...!

LVCougarFan

12/16/15 11:47am

I apologize

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