its an investment in infrastructure, ROI isn't the most important part

Mar 29, 2017
12:29:04pm

Dissenter Walk-on

I know that even to wind power ROI is important, but throwing 50 billion into windpower that gets you 45 billion dollars worth of clean energy is better than spending 50 billion for 60 billion dollars worth of brown coal energy

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Does anyone else worry about the unintended consequences of alternative energy?

Thunder Buddy I beat up Derik Stevenson

3/29/17 8:28am

Good call. TNT had just added a new group to his hate list

TNT

3/29/17 8:29am

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JimmyZ

3/29/17 8:30am

Hate is a very powerful word and, in most instances, it applies to the situation.

foofcoug

3/29/17 8:31am

Yep. JimmyZ has been added to the ignore list. TNT "hates" him

TNT

3/29/17 8:31am

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JimmyZ

3/29/17 8:34am

RE: Yep. JimmyZ has been added to the ignore list. TNT "hates" him

monkeycowboy

3/29/17 8:49am

Meh. The Jedi were freaking clueless

TNT

3/29/17 8:51am

RE: Meh. The Jedi were freaking clueless

monkeycowboy

3/29/17 8:58am

Plus, if we use up all the solar energy,

El Careeb

3/29/17 8:33am

Unless you've been growing plants on your roof, the energy is wasted anyway.

Archaeovagrant

3/29/17 8:34am

What about unintentionally?

TNT

3/29/17 8:36am

Not true. See my post below.

OldCosmo

3/29/17 8:41am

Yup. We're basically turning Earth into Starkiller Base.

jbcoug

3/29/17 8:36am

Oh cool. TNT never thought of it that way.

TNT

3/29/17 8:36am

If you're lucky, Daisy Ridley will come to the rescue any second now

jbcoug

3/29/17 8:40am

Like that satellite weapon in Bond's "Die Another Day". Or the Death Star. This

unctoothman

3/29/17 8:59am

Also, what happens once humans consume all the water on Earth? Anybody ever

Left Shark Coug

3/29/17 8:37am

Wow. TNT had not considered that. Isn't that why folks are warming the earth

TNT

3/29/17 8:38am

This is why I only drink 100% recycled water

Northwest Cougar

3/29/17 10:12am

I agree. Here in NV we have so many solar power plants that the poor Desert

OldCosmo

3/29/17 8:40am

Hey TNT has the same issue as the tortoises!

TNT

3/29/17 8:42am

You aren't as frisky once you have to get out of your chair? It's a real thing.

Breaded Hamster

3/29/17 2:05pm

Why did they build the male and female tortoise dorms so far apart?

Northwest Cougar

3/29/17 8:54am

They "heard" by sex. The dominant males attempt the journey to breed at the

OldCosmo

3/29/17 8:59am

Not gonna lie. That was actually mildly interesting to learn.

Northwest Cougar

3/30/17 11:29am

I didn't want to mention the plight of the dessert tortoise (which is an illegal pet in UT, btw) but that's just another

Thunder Buddy

3/29/17 9:53am

RE: I didn't want to mention the plight of the dessert tortoise (which is an

Northwest Cougar

3/29/17 10:09am

When there are huge farms that cover huge amounts of land I have thought about that actually.

yaxcoug

3/29/17 8:42am

Call me old fashioned

Solomon Levi

3/29/17 8:44am

In the specific instance of putting them on homes, it would actually be helpful to trap the energy and convert it to a

theOnceler

3/29/17 8:52am

What about the problem of solar panels making the earth more reflective and

Caboom

3/29/17 8:52am

That's scary

TNT

3/29/17 8:53am

Holy moley. Unsubscribe.

crazY

3/29/17 9:33am

The problem of wind power (what the libs don't want you to know)

spinner

3/29/17 9:08am

Holy moley. Subscribe

TNT

3/29/17 9:12am

Mind. Blown. wait...

Solomon Levi

3/29/17 9:13am

Pretty funny, but honestly

Chambana Coug

3/29/17 10:37am

its an investment in infrastructure, ROI isn't the most important part

Dissenter

3/29/17 12:29pm

That makes no sense. If it's worth more, then it would be worth more in dollar terms.

Chambana Coug

3/29/17 6:44pm

whats the value of a road? They have 'negative ROI', but are valuable

Dissenter

3/30/17 8:03am

Absolutely, and you can quantify that value. They are not negative NPV.

Chambana Coug

3/30/17 9:40am

And I believe that coal has negative value, regardless of energy output.

Dissenter

3/30/17 10:20am

I'd love for you to expound on that.

Chambana Coug

3/30/17 10:23am

You literally have no idea what you are talking about

Solomon Levi

3/29/17 1:40pm

"Stop listening to conservative talk radio" -- True life advice right there

Dissenter

3/29/17 6:29pm

I have a family member that was a project manager for a large installment of windmills. He's an expert in the industry.

Chambana Coug

3/29/17 6:42pm

So, you literally have some idea of what you're talking about.

Breaded Hamster

3/30/17 12:38am

I would be curious to know more about your family member

Solomon Levi

3/30/17 2:22pm

You didn't even talk about the bigger problem.

Almaden Cougar

3/30/17 12:49am

You should write fro the Onion

mudpupper

3/29/17 9:27am

Can't tell if serious . . . .

CosmoK

3/29/17 9:47am

It would only take a tiny bit of worthless desert land in CA, AZ and NM to power

Windward_Coug

3/29/17 10:31am

Nope, the big solar array they built in California, 45 miles from Vegas, is only

TheDeek

3/29/17 11:17am

yeah but it gives us something to look at while on I 15 and on that stretch of

monkeycowboy

3/29/17 11:22am

Ivanpah has been pretty bad. But there are better examples.

CosmoK

3/29/17 11:30am

Railway power storage for the win baaaby!

OldCosmo

3/29/17 11:59pm

People are often surprised that storing energy is difficult.

CosmoK

3/30/17 9:30am

You sir are correct. But this project will die because of the Desert Tortoise.

OldCosmo

3/30/17 9:51am

At least we have an answer to this important question

Northwest Cougar

3/30/17 11:34am

My problem is that they are ugly.

Mr Blue

3/29/17 10:49am

Mr. Musk may have something to say about that.

Blue Golfer

3/29/17 4:52pm

The only thing you need to worry about...

canofpicante

3/29/17 11:15am

Look what it's doing to our water supply:

Shabwak

3/29/17 11:26am

They must be putting things in our oxygen supply!

phageman

3/29/17 5:44pm

In all seriousness, the mining of rare earth elements needed for solar panels

BigEasyCougar

3/29/17 8:19pm

What's worse, rare earth mining or nuclear waste?

kapcreations

3/29/17 9:18pm

Mining. Just my opinion.

Caboom

3/29/17 9:42pm

Good question. I don't know. Every single energy source has

BigEasyCougar

3/30/17 5:32am

I also have a similar concern about water. If we drink water, the porpoises

NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN

3/30/17 3:24am

Yes! These are black holes of sunlight. If we don't act now, who knows how bad

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