Except that Ivan was a way better hitter than Molina (and just as good as Posey), but a much better defender

Apr 26, 2017
12:43:10pm

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No one kept runners at bay better than Pudge.

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What would your all time lineup be if you could pick any players ever?

sgriff

4/26/17 11:19am

Bonds and Ruth are always at the top of any WAR or VORP list.

d-coug

4/26/17 11:24am

Bonds was a jerk and his numbers inflated by roids and Ruth an alcoholic.

sgriff

4/26/17 11:27am

Yet you have Cobb on there...

foofcoug

4/26/17 11:29am

There is a lot of mis information about Cobb out there. Read this article:

sgriff

4/26/17 11:37am

Ty Cobb

Gigo

4/26/17 1:11pm

And the stories of Ted Williams alcoholism are well known too.

The Old Y

4/26/17 11:44am

Didn't know about Ted's alcoholism. I could be talked into a switch for Ruth.

sgriff

4/26/17 12:05pm

If you have 12 minutes, Bonds is the greatest baseball player of all time:

specialk08

4/26/17 1:06pm

I know. I just don't like him and wouldn't want to lose him to drug testing.

sgriff

4/26/17 1:12pm

Yes. He was found guilty of obstruction of justice but never found guilty of

specialk08

4/26/17 1:19pm

RE: What would your all time lineup be if you could pick any players ever?

donnerstag

4/26/17 11:24am

Lineup by JAWS Leaders

Ackman

4/26/17 11:52am

Lol. My brain read Warren Sapp, not Warren Spahn.

LeftOfNormal

4/26/17 12:00pm

RE: What would your all time lineup be if you could pick any players ever?

smokymountainrain

4/26/17 11:28am

You're going to risk steroid guys? They're going to get caught with modern tests

sgriff

4/26/17 11:43am

I think you need to add Mantle, Dimaggio, and Rose

Samuel Hall Society

4/26/17 11:35am

who does he take off? i think he's sticking with 9 guys in the lineup.

smokymountainrain

4/26/17 11:39am

Over Who?

sgriff

4/26/17 11:42am

Nolan Ryan as the SP. Love ya Gibson, but come on now.

The Old Y

4/26/17 11:42am

Found this description of Gibson online:

sgriff

4/26/17 12:15pm

Wagner was a SS, wasn't he?

JDBlue

4/26/17 11:43am

Yes. He was.

donnerstag

4/26/17 12:57pm

Yes, but I think any great SS could transition to 2B easily enough.

sgriff

4/26/17 12:58pm

If you don't have bonds, you don't have the best lineup ever.

Josef K

4/26/17 11:46am

Or Tony Gwynn. The best "hitter" in the modern era. Highly underated.

The Old Y

4/26/17 11:50am

I did consider Gwynn pretty hard. tough to leave him off. might be worth

sgriff

4/26/17 12:10pm

I can't have any team without Griffey. I firmly believe he was the best outfielder of all time.

indocoug

4/26/17 11:52am

Wow. Pudge over Bench? Shoot, I'd put a couple CURRENT catchers over Pudge.

LeftOfNormal

4/26/17 11:55am

yeah. Not too sure about that pick either. I could easily be swayed.

sgriff

4/26/17 12:02pm

Yeah, you'll notice I didn't mention WHICH current C's, for a similar reason.

LeftOfNormal

4/26/17 12:09pm

Pudge is the best defensive catcher there was. Also a solid .296 batting average and one of the faster catchers

indocoug

4/26/17 12:17pm

I was thinking Yadier Molina for Defense and game management but he is slow

sgriff

4/26/17 12:20pm

Except that Ivan was a way better hitter than Molina (and just as good as Posey), but a much better defender

indocoug

4/26/17 12:43pm

That's why I picked him for my lineup.

sgriff

4/26/17 12:57pm

I'd probably choose Yadi or Buster. When all is said and done, both players will

LeftOfNormal

4/26/17 12:32pm

My List:

The Old Y

4/26/17 12:05pm

you're list has 7 outfielders. Who's playing playing the infield?

sgriff

4/26/17 12:08pm

It does not matter. I'm playing short though. Already Called it.

The Old Y

4/26/17 12:09pm

I'll take Ozzie over the old Y any day

sgriff

4/26/17 12:11pm

Me too!

The Old Y

4/26/17 12:14pm

Ok. Since this is your game, and you force me to do it:

The Old Y

4/26/17 12:13pm

You know, you COULD pitch Ruth if you really couldn't find an OF spot. I bet

LeftOfNormal

4/26/17 12:17pm

Ruth as a pitcher and hitter combo is interesting for a single game apporach.

sgriff

4/26/17 12:25pm

I always knew he pitched early in his career but never assumed he was any better

LeftOfNormal

4/26/17 12:38pm

It's amazing how truly great he was at both pitching and hitting.

sgriff

4/26/17 12:56pm

Willimas would be a liabilty in center and Ruth couldn't squat down for more

sgriff

4/26/17 12:23pm

Will be interesting to see where Mike Trout ends up in 10 years

BYUheaven

4/26/17 12:05pm

Koufax for pitcher.

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