Lucky overachiever? Worst Heisman Trophy winner ever? You really don't know much

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Oct 23, 2017
7:58:01pm

Game Changer Contributor

Lucky overachiever? Worst Heisman Trophy winner ever? You really don't know much

about college football, do you? The dude ended his career with 59 NCAA records, and you attribute all of that to being "lucky" - seriously? And clearly you need to take another look at the list of Heisman Trophy winners, because there are at least a dozen guys who are hands down worse than Detmer.

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Interesting fact about Ty. He's thrown the most INTs of any QB in BYU history

Bryceo19

10/23/17 7:43pm

*fewer TDs

Duke Silver

10/23/17 7:46pm

I've said this all along. Let Mangum throw 3 picks a game and 3 TD's, it won't

Cougarfan777

10/23/17 7:47pm

Is a long pass INT really any worse than a 3 and out?

mudpupper

10/23/17 7:50pm

It's much better, because if it's not an INT it's an immediate TD. There is

Cougarfan777

10/23/17 7:55pm

Not many guys played 4 straight years. But, yes that’s a lot of INTs

The Dude Abides

10/23/17 7:47pm

Four straight years and he threw a lot of balls.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/23/17 8:57pm

2-1 TD/INT ratio is fine with me. If a QB throws 30 TDs and 15 INTs that’s ok with me.

SlantRoute

10/23/17 7:48pm

Especially in the late '80s and early '90s. The game has changed a lot since

Game Changer

10/23/17 7:53pm

he also lost the next FIVE games, badly, after winning the Heisman; he is a nice

insidebyu

10/23/17 7:50pm

He had a solid NFL career to boot. He is not overrated.

titlecoug

10/23/17 7:53pm

Let's take all our heroes and cut their playing career down to size

10/23/17 7:57pm

Lucky overachiever? Worst Heisman Trophy winner ever? You really don't know much

Game Changer

10/23/17 7:58pm

Probably wasn't alive in 1994. #millenials

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:24pm

Context to consider if you're fair minded enough (which i seriously doubt)

CLCougar

10/23/17 8:02pm

Semanoff didn’t play with Ty, and he had great byu WRs his entire career.

macaroni

10/23/17 8:13pm

You are correct on Semanoff, my bad....i just knew it wasn't a strong group

CLCougar

10/23/17 8:28pm

Joe Semanoff was a fullback and he played over a Decade after Ty.

akmewg

10/23/17 8:20pm

And I think he's on CB, could probably bear testimony of this

Game Changer

10/23/17 8:23pm

Wow. Just. Wow. This is a guy who won the heismsn in his worst year. That's

smokymountainrain

10/23/17 8:02pm

Stop being rational...some of these people are in a frenzy and lashing out.

CLCougar

10/23/17 8:04pm

If you really think that, you don’t watch much football and you never watched him play. Heck, look at his contemporary

macaroni

10/23/17 8:12pm

Nobody is asking you to be a fan. There are other programs that you can cheer

crazY

10/23/17 8:12pm

Remind us, who are you? What credentials do you have to make that judgment?

10/23/17 8:52pm

HOT TAKE ALERT!!!!

UberDeek

10/23/17 10:03pm

I have been very harsh of ty the coach but ty the player deserved everything he

nashty

10/23/17 11:01pm

Yeah he just broke like 50 NCAA records by happenstance...(eye roll)

10/24/17 4:06pm

Boardname fail. Delete your account.

Abe Froman

10/24/17 10:29pm

Not really comparing Mangum to Detmer or INTs and TDs.

Bryceo19

10/23/17 7:56pm

I dunno...

teancum

10/24/17 10:06am

Can't really compare Doman to Ty since Doman only played started his senior yea

akmewg

10/23/17 7:58pm

What does his playing career have to do with anything?

macaroni

10/23/17 7:59pm

Let me spell it out for you.

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:07pm

Let me spell it out for you: Totally irrelevant to his current position.

macaroni

10/23/17 8:14pm

Everything is relavent. This is CB!

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:19pm

No, it's not.

crazY

10/23/17 8:21pm

Yes, it is!

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:25pm

No. Just, no.

crazY

10/23/17 8:27pm

Yes. Just, yes!

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:34pm

I think you're trolling. Not everything is relevant on CB. Only relevant info

crazY

10/23/17 8:42pm

Yes, only relevant info is relavent. Like Ty's playing and coaching careers.

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:46pm

But his coaching is irrelevant to his playing.

crazY

10/23/17 8:49pm

Clearly in your opinion. Thank you. I respectfully disagree.

Bryceo19

10/23/17 9:00pm

How are the two relevant?

crazY

10/23/17 9:17pm

I’m pretty sure this is CB actually.

(Private)

10/23/17 9:32pm

Killer instinct? I could forgive him if he was too aggressive and that lead to

akmewg

10/23/17 8:17pm

So, you're saying we should expect the most losing seasons in BYU history, and

10/23/17 7:59pm

No. I'm not talking about wins and losses. That's a team thing.

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:09pm

What part of Detmer's playcalling suggests to you that he is willing to take

OlanchoCoug

10/24/17 10:25am

We should have benched Ty.

10/23/17 8:05pm

For Sean Covey? Right! Bench the guy with 2:1 TD:INT for guy with 1:1.

Bryceo19

10/23/17 8:17pm

No and no.

Go_Trojans

10/23/17 8:58pm

Not only did he play four straight years

Cougarpride

10/23/17 9:43pm

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