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Gerald-DeGroot
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CB would have fired Lavell. 5 win season his second year, after 7 his first year
Phcole
11/19/17 4:36pm
He was 5-6 that year. Won-Oregon St, New Mexico, Weber St, @Utah, @ UTEP. Lost-CSU, USU, Iowa St, ASU, Wyoming, Arizona
byuluvr
11/19/17 4:39pm
Lost to USU both years too.
Phcole
11/19/17 4:40pm
Did Lavell take over a program that was regularly going to bowl games? Or was putting up winning seasons?
monkeycowboy
11/19/17 4:40pm
Don't try to bring reason here. He's sharing some very important stats. It's incredibly important that they be viewed
Pimpin4Paradise
11/19/17 4:43pm
And his stats are wrong. They won 5 games not 4.
byuluvr
11/19/17 4:46pm
You're right, I saw I December game and thought it was a bowl.
Phcole
11/19/17 4:48pm
You mean the hindsight of knowing what he did in the following years?
Phcole
11/19/17 4:51pm
This.
Gerald-DeGroot
11/19/17 4:45pm
In year two he wasn't showing any better than his predecessor.
Phcole
11/19/17 4:46pm
It’s okay to admit your comparison doesn’t work. No need to double down.
The Dude Abides
11/19/17 4:59pm
Completely different situation
acougfan
11/19/17 4:50pm
Correct, CB didn't exist. Fans could not get together anonymously to get mad.
Phcole
11/19/17 4:51pm
Did Lavell lose to 4 of the worst teams in football in which his team was barely
VACOUGFAN
11/19/17 4:56pm
Probably. Only scored 3 against Oregon state and 7 against AZ. 7 vs usu
Phcole
11/19/17 4:59pm
Different era. BYU hadn't established a winning culture before LaVell, so the
SoValleyCOUG
11/19/17 5:01pm
Yep. But everything but fan expectations is similar. New scheme, new personnel
Phcole
11/19/17 5:03pm
Didn't he also win like 4 of his last 5 that year and show dramatic improvement
BlueVU
11/19/17 5:27pm
Yes. He also wasn't on his 4th string QB/RB combo
Phcole
11/19/17 8:29pm
LaVell innovated and built up culture didn’t stagnate and degrade it
towerman
11/19/17 5:28pm
Lavell also had the "advantage" of an apathetic (non-existent) fanbase.
VACOUGFAN
11/19/17 6:28pm
Yikes. Wrong again. Getting pretty regular with you.
Ash
11/19/17 6:37pm
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