In year two he wasn't showing any better than his predecessor.

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Nov 19, 2017
4:46:54pm

Phcole Walk-on

In year two he wasn't showing any better than his predecessor.

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Phcole

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CB would have fired Lavell. 5 win season his second year, after 7 his first year

Phcole

11/19/17 4:36pm

He was 5-6 that year. Won-Oregon St, New Mexico, Weber St, @Utah, @ UTEP. Lost-CSU, USU, Iowa St, ASU, Wyoming, Arizona

byuluvr

11/19/17 4:39pm

Lost to USU both years too.

Phcole

11/19/17 4:40pm

Did Lavell take over a program that was regularly going to bowl games? Or was putting up winning seasons?

11/19/17 4:40pm

Don't try to bring reason here. He's sharing some very important stats. It's incredibly important that they be viewed

Pimpin4Paradise

11/19/17 4:43pm

And his stats are wrong. They won 5 games not 4.

byuluvr

11/19/17 4:46pm

You're right, I saw I December game and thought it was a bowl.

Phcole

11/19/17 4:48pm

You mean the hindsight of knowing what he did in the following years?

Phcole

11/19/17 4:51pm

This.

11/19/17 4:45pm

In year two he wasn't showing any better than his predecessor.

Phcole

11/19/17 4:46pm

It’s okay to admit your comparison doesn’t work. No need to double down.

The Dude Abides

11/19/17 4:59pm

Completely different situation

acougfan

11/19/17 4:50pm

Correct, CB didn't exist. Fans could not get together anonymously to get mad.

Phcole

11/19/17 4:51pm

Did Lavell lose to 4 of the worst teams in football in which his team was barely

VACOUGFAN

11/19/17 4:56pm

Probably. Only scored 3 against Oregon state and 7 against AZ. 7 vs usu

Phcole

11/19/17 4:59pm

Different era. BYU hadn't established a winning culture before LaVell, so the

SoValleyCOUG

11/19/17 5:01pm

Yep. But everything but fan expectations is similar. New scheme, new personnel

Phcole

11/19/17 5:03pm

Didn't he also win like 4 of his last 5 that year and show dramatic improvement

BlueVU

11/19/17 5:27pm

Yes. He also wasn't on his 4th string QB/RB combo

Phcole

11/19/17 8:29pm

LaVell innovated and built up culture didn’t stagnate and degrade it

towerman

11/19/17 5:28pm

Lavell also had the "advantage" of an apathetic (non-existent) fanbase.

VACOUGFAN

11/19/17 6:28pm

Yikes. Wrong again. Getting pretty regular with you.

Ash

11/19/17 6:37pm

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