he and Andrew Klavan discuss the impact of smartphones on teens. They also get into a really interesting religious conversation: actually go in line with some thoughts I had while reading his books. Andrew Klavan was born Jewish and converted to Christianity, and his takes are fascinating.

In technology because 90% of the conversation is related to teens and smart phone use, and the emotional impact it's having. Very enlightening episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=t3lbH9F2-nYjHXkG&v=wRL52268jLw&feature=youtu.be