Sep 21, 2009
9:34:07pm
The definitive ASU vs. BYU thread ...
A couple of posters started this debate below ... this post shoudl end it.

Throughout college football history, ASU is 20-7 against BYU.

ASU and BYU joined the new Western Athletic Conference in 1962. If you start at that time, when ASU and BYU played roughly similar schedules, ASU is 13-5 against BYU (before 1962, ASU was 7-2 against BYU).

As was previously pointed out in an earlier post, ASU is 2-2 in their last 4 meetings with BYU. Since ASU won 8 games in a row against BYU between 1966 and 1973, ASU is 5-3 against BYU since 1974.

In fact, pick any time frame and ASU has been a better team than BYU in head-to-head match-ups.

In addition, when ASU was in the WAC with BYU, ASU won that conference 7 times(1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975 and 1977) while BYU won the conference 4 times (1965, 1974, 1976 and 1977).

Since ASU started playing in the Pac-10, BYU has won the WAC 15 times (1978 through 1985, 1989 through 1993, 1995 and 1996). It is no coincidence IMO that BYUs real success in the WAC came after ASU left for the Pac-10 as ASU dominated the conference before 1978.

Since ASU left the WAC, ASU has won the Pac-10 champiosnhip 3 times (a shared title in 2007) and BYU has a combined 19 conference championships (15 in the WAC and 3 in the MWC).

Since ASU joined the Pac-10 in 1978, ASU has been 125-100 against the Pac-10 (a .560 winning percentage). During that same period, BYU is 15-21 against the Pac-10 (of course, not including ASU) (a .420 winning percentage).

In its history ASU has:
Finished #1 in the AP rankings = 0
Finished #2 in the AP rankings = 1
Finished in the Top 5 = 3
Finished in the Top 10 = 7
Finished in the Top 25 = 15

In its history BYU has:
Finished #1 in the AP rankings = 1
Finished #2 in the AP rankings = 0
Finished in the Top 5 = 2
Finished in the Top 10 = 3
Finished in the Top 25 = 16

ASU has been ranked in 25% of all 993 AP polls
(http://www.appollarchive.com/football/ap/teams/summary.cfm?teamid=132).

BYU has been ranked in 23% of all 993 AP polls
(http://www.appollarchive.com/football/ap/teams/summary.cfm?teamid=148).

According to Fred Stevensons Combined List of Top Teams (by School and Year), ASU places two teams its 1986 team and its 1996 team while BYUs 1984 national championship team is not listed. (http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~dwilson/rfsc/history/stevenson3.txt)

ASU has placed 12 Walter Camp All-Americans while BYU has placed 7.

In the last 20 years, ASU is 3-27 against teams that finished in the Top 10 (a .100 winning percentage sucky, I know) but BYU is 1-14 (a .067 winning percentage even more sucky). In the last 15 years, ASU is 3-22 against teams that finished in the Top 10 (a .120 winning percentage again, sucky), but BYU is 0-10 (a .000 winning percentage again, even more sucky).

ASU has 4 NFL Hall of Famers (Mike Haynes, John Jefferson, Charley Taylor, and Randall McDaniel). BYU has one (Steve Young).

ASU has 5 players in the College Football Hall of Fame (Mike Haynes, John Jefferson, Randall McDaniel, Ron Pritchard, and Danny White). This does not include future Hall of Famers Jake Plummer, Pat Tillman, and Terrell Suggs. BYU has 4 players in the College Football Hall of Fame (Jim McMahon, Gifford Nielsen, Marc Wilson, and Steve Young). I dont know who BYUs future Hall of Famers will be to be honest maybe John Tait or Luke Staley?

BYU fans can pick the parameters, but ASU comes out on top in virtually every category.
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