And how it is better to lose in the PAC 12 then to win in the MWC. I am not sure how long the fan base will buy into the concept that they would rather watch USC, Oregon or Stanford come to RES and beat the Utes then to have their team win. If they miss a bowl game the next 2-3 years it will affect recruiting and they may never recover. Then we will see if it is better to lose to the big guys then win.