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Apr 21, 2015
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LasVegasBlue
What about Arujo, Plaisted, Burgess
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Well, with the Neilson news, I've updated my Dave Rose big man signees chart
HawkCat
4/20/15 9:46pm
How can you count injury busts against him? Also, if you're counting Stephen
Epileptic Beagle
4/20/15 9:49pm
Hawkcat is an 0-fer in meaningful sports analysis.
TN_Coug
4/20/15 9:54pm
Ok, I'll be expecting your insightful analysis of the situation shortly then
HawkCat
4/20/15 11:00pm
What were Stephen's measurables?
HawkCat
4/20/15 10:34pm
lol so height alone = position? Do you watch basketball?
southernfriedcougar
4/20/15 10:51pm
Keena Young was 6'6. He was a "big." Rogers is not.
southernfriedcougar
4/20/15 10:53pm
6'8 and 20 lbs
Mr Bassman
4/20/15 11:00pm
He did descend from the Cummard line...
HawkCat
4/20/15 11:06pm
I was planning to type up a rebuttal this morning, but it looks like wisconsin
Epileptic Beagle
4/21/15 8:42am
Counting injuries as "busts" is mind-numbingly stupid.
benny1982
4/21/15 9:11am
Greg Oden is considered a bust but not because of his game.
jakespoon
4/21/15 11:34am
In this context, where Hawk is making an argument against Rose's ability
benny1982
4/21/15 11:44am
Sam Bowie was not considered a bust? injury = bust.
jakespoon
4/21/15 11:33am
Don't forget Walton
Seamore
4/21/15 3:22pm
What a horrible answer!
kimdaddy35
4/21/15 1:13pm
Hmmm. Listed as a forward.
HawkCat
4/21/15 10:16pm
you're really on a roll. Ever heard of a SF? Aka another wing?
southernfriedcougar
4/21/15 10:31pm
I hope you are trolling
kimdaddy35
4/22/15 1:30am
Maybe think about the term bust and then edit.
southernfriedcougar
4/20/15 9:52pm
Hawkcat and Worthington: You'll always have Tucanos
boiseman92
4/20/15 9:56pm
keena young played the 4 and was recruited by rose
tigerblue
4/20/15 9:57pm
Confounding data. Unless you can be 100% sure a player was identified
HawkCat
4/20/15 10:46pm
I'm 100% sure Keena Young came to BYU bc of Coach Rose
wisconsincougs
4/21/15 5:15am
Wasnt it because of Cleveland?
Gerald-DeGroot
4/21/15 9:15am
I know Pope was well liked, bit there was not a lot of improvement in the bigs
Thrill
4/20/15 9:58pm
I honestly don't get how some hold this opinion.
Mantis Mutu
4/20/15 10:54pm
Which guys showed significant improvement? Kaufusi did this year, and all the
Thrill
4/20/15 11:58pm
It had a LOT more than better conditioning involved with it. Andrus & Nielson
Mantis Mutu
4/21/15 3:25am
how did you feel about Noah hartsocks senior year
concolor couguar
4/21/15 10:07am
Sharp was 100% a B-U-S-T.
ag4cougs
4/20/15 10:01pm
Yeah, but he was only 25% big man.
Mantis Mutu
4/20/15 10:53pm
This is really a sad but true statistic - Also several misses on LDS kids
Jersey hunter
4/20/15 10:13pm
Justin Hamilton - isn't/wasn't LDS
bstod
4/20/15 10:25pm
please name his misses. lds bigs who were really good big men somewhere else.
GSwarriorcoug
4/21/15 1:08pm
asu bachinsky and Colette at usu
concolor couguar
4/21/15 1:20pm
I agree that we could have used Bachinsky, but he wasn't as great as peopl make
GSwarriorcoug
4/21/15 5:33pm
That's why you can't miss...because there are so few.
ag4cougs
4/21/15 10:07pm
<< Deleted >>
Mantis Mutu
4/20/15 10:46pm
Wait where is Plaisted?
CarolinaCoug
4/20/15 11:37pm
Cleveland recruit
HawkCat
4/20/15 11:48pm
Austin is NOT a bust.
ol' Blue Eyes
4/21/15 12:04am
And Luke Worthington absolutely is
coug203
4/21/15 12:06am
Not for lack of improvement. It's a lack of effectiveness. (IOWs lack of talent)
Mantis Mutu
4/21/15 3:26am
Borderline=debatable
HawkCat
4/21/15 12:17am
Somebody that guards bigs, brings down 8 Reb/game, a block, a steal, an assist
ol' Blue Eyes
4/21/15 7:37am
Austin is horrible at Defense. Horrible.
Gerald-DeGroot
4/21/15 9:23am
You're saying that Rose can't develop a big man
qom
4/21/15 12:41am
Or, based on the numbers, even regularly identify one.
HawkCat
4/21/15 12:45am
I thought Fernando was decent.
CougarBreath
4/21/15 2:25am
Austin finished top 2 or 3 in conference in rebounding - not a bust
BYUfan92
4/21/15 5:39am
"No offense whatsoever" .... false for Austin
Bob Vance
4/21/15 6:54am
I predict...
lbmango
4/21/15 7:22am
Here's another way to cut the data
wisconsincougs
4/21/15 7:28am
And that, my friends, is how you completely dismantle a dumb post
jdub
4/21/15 6:52pm
Lol. Dismantling post contends Rose is 5 for 16 instead of 4 for 16.
HawkCat
4/21/15 8:04pm
Was actually 9 for 12. Guess I should have spelled that out more clearly.
wisconsincougs
4/21/15 10:22pm
I didn't post a "role player" option. Just bust or success. You created that.
HawkCat
4/21/15 10:38pm
So wrong on Rogers and Austin.
Y'zFan
4/21/15 8:33am
Because Rogers isn't a big.
southernfriedcougar
4/21/15 10:49am
I think we may need to address the definition of a bust
gww687
4/21/15 9:25am
This post shows an absolute lack of understanding of how rare good bigs are and
PhilPete
4/21/15 10:11am
exactly, when asked for a list of really good lds bigs that rose missed on
GSwarriorcoug
4/21/15 5:57pm
So rare that even USU has produced more in the same time span.
HawkCat
4/21/15 9:03pm
Spencer nelson graduated the year before rose got the job
concolor couguar
4/21/15 9:18pm
Question isn't BEST big, it's how many.
HawkCat
4/21/15 9:23pm
actually the question I asked was who was best
concolor couguar
4/21/15 9:42pm
Lets take a look at those guys.
GSwarriorcoug
4/22/15 12:53am
What about Arujo, Plaisted, Burgess
LasVegasBlue
4/21/15 10:46am
Hoffa and Burgess played for Cleve. Plaisted signed w Cleve, played for Rose
wisconsincougs
4/21/15 11:07am
Again, I love how you expect Rose to have recruited and developed a big man
GSwarriorcoug
4/21/15 5:39pm
Where did I say that?
HawkCat
4/21/15 9:27pm
You keep citing that he has had 10 years to do it. Explain to me how you
GSwarriorcoug
4/22/15 1:01am
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