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Oct 7, 2015
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blueaussie
or maybe they aren't getting in to the nfl because they lack desire after one
Loss. Therefore they lack the desire to make it to the nfl.
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Problem is not the coaches
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:04pm
The nothing to play for excuse is lame.
blueaussie
10/6/15 10:08pm
So what's there to play for?
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:09pm
The same thing Notre Dame has to play for.
CMuehle
10/6/15 10:15pm
Wrong
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:26pm
What did ND have to play for until 1969 when
CMuehle
10/6/15 10:35pm
Yup. BYU is not ND. But BYU is comparable to the 1980s eastern independents.
SteveOrr
10/6/15 10:42pm
In answer to your first question
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:43pm
Football players play for the same reasons now that they did in
CMuehle
10/6/15 10:53pm
what did the cal win do for BYU?
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:01pm
You're making my point for me.
CMuehle
10/6/15 11:04pm
Think of their celebration if they had just won a conference championship
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:06pm
Then we should drop to FCS and be a perennial National Championship contender.
BarraCouga
10/6/15 11:14pm
If you're suggesting that they'd have big celebrations if they
CMuehle
10/6/15 11:14pm
Here is my question to you
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:25pm
First, the reason BYU is one of the few teams
CMuehle
10/6/15 11:43pm
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ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:27pm
National Ranking is preferable to an MWC Championship.
HighHorse
10/6/15 10:17pm
Problem with that argument is
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:23pm
Not a valid comparison.
PolarisPrime
10/6/15 11:50pm
last year we lost to 3 MWC teams.
HighHorse
10/7/15 6:03am
Competitive drive is stronger than any pointless conference championship
squirrelyearl
10/6/15 10:29pm
Well looked at it this way
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:34pm
How often are we ranked and how often to we go to a good bowl game?
OpusX
10/6/15 10:43pm
Not very often
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:49pm
Playing to win should be enough but I realize for many it is not.
blueaussie
10/6/15 10:30pm
You play to win the game. It's that simple. You play to win the game.
BarraCouga
10/6/15 10:36pm
so every school should just go independant if it's just about winning the game
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:54pm
That may be the worst logical leap in the history of Cougarboard. Quite a feat.
BarraCouga
10/6/15 10:59pm
but
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:03pm
Only if it's legit.
BarraCouga
10/6/15 11:08pm
It has worked well for Boise st.
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:14pm
We're not a truck driver school.
BarraCouga
10/6/15 11:19pm
I agree
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:30pm
So Texas should go to the MWC? Logic fall.
BarraCouga
10/6/15 11:37pm
funny thing
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:47pm
Boise is looking better right now than Texas. Texas should emasculate itself...
BarraCouga
10/7/15 1:20am
interestingly I remember thinking byu should go independent in the 80s/90s.
blueaussie
10/6/15 11:03pm
It's only enough in Fairyland. In the real world, it's meaningless.
P-townCoug
10/6/15 10:11pm
Utter bull-pucky.
CMuehle
10/6/15 10:16pm
Fantastic rebuttal.
P-townCoug
10/6/15 10:18pm
Every bit as thoughtful as the statement it rebuts.
CMuehle
10/6/15 10:35pm
not saying it is reality. Just saying it should be enough. I always play to win
blueaussie
10/6/15 10:33pm
Internal error message
Gerald-DeGroot
10/6/15 10:32pm
Haha. Unfortunately some need more motivation than just winning.
blueaussie
10/6/15 10:34pm
One other thing...
wilsdad
10/7/15 6:31am
I agree with that but
ibleedbyublue
10/7/15 7:09am
or maybe they aren't getting in to the nfl because they lack desire after one
blueaussie
10/7/15 9:21am
you must love preaseason NBA and NFL, too. right? MLB spring training! yay!
macaroni
10/7/15 8:04am
nope can't stand it but at least in those cases there is a greater purpose
blueaussie
10/9/15 11:30am
Although I do believe the coaching is suspect, I couldn't agree
P-townCoug
10/6/15 10:10pm
the arguments I've heard are 1- It's the only way to get into a P5 conference
franklyvulgar
10/6/15 10:13pm
I have heard the same thing problem is
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:20pm
BYU has said that Independence is not sustainable,my question is it P5 or bust
franklyvulgar
10/6/15 10:51pm
And we were one turf slip by Jurgens from being 4-1.
CougarThug
10/7/15 6:12am
Lavell was concerned about this when BYU went independent.
Cougar Junkie
10/6/15 10:16pm
so how does it work when you don't have a conference championship to play for?
palangi
10/7/15 1:14am
I agree. What I wonder is if Notre Dame fans feel the same way? Excepting 2013,
mikeynolikey
10/6/15 10:26pm
If playing for the love of the game isn't enough, I don't want you on my team.
SoCalCoug
10/6/15 10:30pm
Really? So why even keep score?
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:36pm
You play to win the game. Why assume the competition isn't part of the love
SoCalCoug
10/6/15 10:39pm
i agree, and playing to win championship is part of that
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 10:48pm
Then why don't teams just quit when they're eliminated from a championship?
SoCalCoug
10/6/15 10:59pm
i think they do. See Alabama vs Utah. I think Alabama packed that game in.
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:12pm
These arguments belong in Utopia.
P-townCoug
10/6/15 11:18pm
Well said
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:31pm
Sorry, but what tangible thing, exactly, does BYU get
CMuehle
10/7/15 12:01am
You're the only one who's brought up MWC.
P-townCoug
10/7/15 9:13am
Nice strategy.
CMuehle
10/9/15 10:48am
That's ok, he probably doesn't want Pollyanna on his.
mikeynolikey
10/7/15 9:06am
I don't like Independence either. But our coaches are below average.
Gerald-DeGroot
10/6/15 10:31pm
There are multiple problems. Independence is the biggest problem. Even ND is
Josef K
10/6/15 10:50pm
Academy. Navy is AAC
Colorado
10/6/15 10:56pm
Even Navy figured out they couldn't be independent.
Josef K
10/6/15 11:03pm
It's embarrassing. Not just that the players can't get motivated to
DH51
10/6/15 11:01pm
that was fun everyone. Thanks for the good discussion. I am off to bed, do it
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:18pm
Yeah, let's join the MWC and remove all doubt
Harrison0Yfan
10/6/15 11:26pm
Just curious
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:34pm
They could have 100 MWC trophies and I wouldn't trade.
BarraCouga
10/6/15 11:44pm
so you wouldn't take their BCS and NY6 bowl appearances
ibleedbyublue
10/6/15 11:48pm
Not at that cost.
BarraCouga
10/7/15 12:40am
Nah. I like BYU and hope they succeed in their own way
Harrison0Yfan
10/7/15 2:48pm
wa wa wa wa wa wa wa feel like I stuck in nursery.
bald man
10/7/15 6:18am
agreed....wonding if bleedblues parents know he's up.
digitalayon
10/7/15 9:38am
You know this year BYU has either the Hawaii or Las Vegas bowl possibility
BYUFam1
10/7/15 6:47am
I feel bad Ibleedblue that you had to take on these fellers all by yourself.
cowhide
10/7/15 8:27am
What you guys want just sounds so boring though
Harrison0Yfan
10/7/15 2:52pm
for the record, BYU would have beaten Oklahoma or Washington in 1984
mikeynolikey
10/7/15 10:02pm
RE: Problem is not the coaches
Cougsanity
10/7/15 9:04am
you're stuck in the wrong decade
warp
10/7/15 9:10am
way off
digitalayon
10/7/15 9:36am
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