along with wings. In the 90s Houston won 2 with Hakeem. Also, good point about Dirk. So let's go ahead and bump it to 6. That's still not a lot of championships during a 3 decade stretch. So I'll stick with my assertion that it's better to have a superstar wing than a superstar point guard or power forward. I don't really know what to make of bigs, because the role of bigs has changed so much. I think we're in wait and see mode to see if someone like Embiid, KAT, Gobert, etc. can lead their team to a championship.