Which Hall are you talking about? Max had a horrible Utah game.

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Sep 27, 2022
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Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.

macdizzle

9/27/22 10:12am

Now that it seems he has mastered the deep ball, I could agree.

SausageKing

9/27/22 10:15am

His deep ball has been a thing of beauty. Am I remembering correctly that Zach's

diluigifan

9/27/22 10:49am

Wait - I thought the coaches last year were having him throw it short on purpose

crack

9/27/22 2:45pm

Not a large enough sample yet to make such a declaration.

Acorn

9/27/22 10:16am

I hear you. I'm not saying he's had the best career of any QB in the last 30

macdizzle

9/27/22 10:17am

Agreed

FatherOFive

9/27/22 4:14pm

Wow. That's a bold statement.

Ham

9/27/22 10:18am

He is fantastic. The two QB years that rival this year's version of Jaren are

diluigifan

9/27/22 10:19am

Sark's 96 year too. But it's probably those 4 stretches that are the best.

macdizzle

9/27/22 10:21am

Yes. You are correct.

diluigifan

9/27/22 10:36am

If John Beck had this receiving core.. that would have Been incredible

Julius Pepperwood

9/27/22 10:43am

True. Our receiving core is fantastic right now.

diluigifan

9/27/22 10:47am

Todd Watkins?

kooogar

9/27/22 1:41pm

2005 not 2006

gmj81

9/27/22 2:30pm

Dropkins?

Poncho punch

9/27/22 2:43pm

He very well could be, but I'll wait until he is completely done at BYU before

Schrodizzy

9/27/22 10:20am

i still don't have the confidence in him that I had with Wilson, Max, Beck (Sr. yr) or Sark. By the end of the year

lightmann

9/27/22 10:30am

Jaren plays so well against tough, P5 teams.

diluigifan

9/27/22 10:44am

This is a good point…I never felt confident with Zach in Big games, tbh

Back2Blue

9/27/22 12:24pm

Hall was good but I never really thought he was on the level of '96 Sark or '06 Beck. He had a better career though

Non-mo Coug

9/27/22 10:50am

He was better in some games than others, but he never had "bad" games. He played with confidence all of the time.

lightmann

9/27/22 12:19pm

Which Hall are you talking about? Max had a horrible Utah game.

CougaRR4L

9/27/22 12:27pm

In 2008, but made the big plays to win in 2007 and 2009

Polemic

9/27/22 12:36pm

Loved him and he was fantastic but "never" had bad games is not true.

CougaRR4L

9/27/22 12:44pm

Change "never" to "rarely."

lightmann

9/27/22 3:25pm

I’ve heard some complain that he doesn’t read the RPO well

Spocougar

9/27/22 10:31am

I agree. He hasn’t made the right reads in the RPO this year for whatever reason. AROD has said as much.

OMIllionaire

9/27/22 12:42pm

Pitches? Do you mean from the speed option or RPO? RPO usually involves a hand off or a pull back to a pass.

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/22 12:45pm

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chilawcoug

9/27/22 12:54pm

The illegal receiver down field call in the WY game would be an example.

BYUHgrad

9/27/22 6:12pm

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chilawcoug

9/27/22 6:16pm

I'd rank him behind Romney but ahead of Wilson

ryebrye

9/27/22 10:32am

Love Jaren, but that's disrespectful.

Lifer

9/27/22 10:44am

He's definitely a great game manager. Don't jump on me for using that term.

mudpupper

9/27/22 10:56am

Wilson seemed faster in 2020 than Jaren is now

arizonacougarfan

9/27/22 4:27pm

IMO WIlson and Beck were two best. Hall has a chance to be as good or better

JoeExotic

9/27/22 11:00am

I’m realizing it is so hard to compare QBs and RBs at BYU across generations

D.T. Survivor

9/27/22 11:00am

Luke Staley Junior year. Best RB season in BYU history. Electric any time he

diluigifan

9/27/22 11:07am

Agreed. Who is the most talented running back? That one I struggle to answer.

D.T. Survivor

9/27/22 11:08am

RE: Agreed. Who is the most talented running back? That one I struggle to

diluigifan

9/27/22 11:12am

Most electric, I agree. Best season by a BYU RB? I will Tyler from last year.

dfudge

9/27/22 4:36pm

We will agree to disagree here. Doak Walker winning season. 8 yds per carry.

diluigifan

9/27/22 9:57pm

Not enough info. Right now, Beck, Wilson, Sark, Doman would all have my trust

Gorum the Old

9/27/22 11:04am

Doman? Are you kidding me? He was one of our worst.

fruitless

9/27/22 11:08am

14-2 as a starter including 2-0 vs Utah. Put up great numbers and was even

Polemic

9/27/22 12:29pm

RE: 14-2 as a starter including 2-0 vs Utah. Put up great numbers and was even

fruitless

9/27/22 2:19pm

He still has a lot to prove in my book . . . jury is very much out

fruitless

9/27/22 11:07am

Hall has been so awesome - I don't know if he is the best since Detmer but he

richvan

9/27/22 11:32am

I wouldnt compare Hall to Detmer, I think he is a better, more athletic version of Senior Year John Beck.

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/22 11:53am

Agreed. Hopefully we as fans can appreciate what we're witnessing Jaren do

Rise Against

9/27/22 12:01pm

He’s more athletic. He’s not a better passer.

mvtoro

9/27/22 12:09pm

He is not far off actually. Career wise Beck has a 141.3 passer rating, Hall has a 158.7. Beck's Senior Year was 169.1

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/22 12:21pm

All true. Again, I’m not trying to diminish Hall, and the stats show he’s doing great things. There’s nothing wrong with

mvtoro

9/27/22 1:14pm

That's debatable. Jaren has been completing 71.5% of his passes this year and

Rise Against

9/27/22 12:22pm

Of course it’s debatable. We’re here debating it. I’m not saying Jaren isn’t great or even that his stats aren’t better.

mvtoro

9/27/22 12:50pm

Ah yes, the ole eye test.

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/22 12:57pm

I mean, you can make fun of it, but literally anyone who evaluates players professionally can see the difference between

mvtoro

9/27/22 1:24pm

Sound good, bro. No one is saying they are the same. In case you missed the OP he was comparing Hall to Detmer.

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/22 4:00pm

I didn’t make an appeal to authority. I just explained where I’ve watched them and specifically said you *don’t* have

mvtoro

9/27/22 5:08pm

I would bet that Jaren Hall gets drafted similar to where Beck was drafted, but that he will have a better career.

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/22 6:25pm

Bro, you keep adding bonus arguments that I haven’t touched. “Better passer”. I already said Hall is more athletic. And

mvtoro

9/27/22 6:44pm

It is debatable, or at least comparable. Statistically he has a better completion percentage, fewer interceptions.

JohnnyComeLately

9/27/22 6:48pm

Board name checks out

fredetteaboutit13

9/27/22 2:22pm

Yeah, ironically I played all through highschool with JB in Mesa, but moved to Spanish Fork where I got to see Hall in

mvtoro

9/27/22 3:23pm

McMahon is still by far the best college QB I have ever seen play

mkscougar

9/27/22 12:36pm

Wish I could have had that privilege. I’m Walsh on.

D.T. Survivor

9/27/22 12:51pm

Yep. Young, Sark, Detmer, Hall, Hall were all excellent. Mac and Beck were best

SouthernCoug

9/27/22 2:14pm

Steve Young as a senior was among the best.

lightmann

9/27/22 3:31pm

He was, but in my 40 years of following BYU, McMahon was #1 and Beck #2 imo

SouthernCoug

9/27/22 3:46pm

Such a microcosm of CB...an unsolicited overreaction.

Elvis

9/27/22 1:00pm

Detmer threw a lot of picks, but it didn’t take

Hyrum in Houston

9/27/22 1:16pm

Wilson was better

Blue2thebone

9/27/22 1:27pm

Way back in 2021 we had a better QB

Hill4Heisman

9/27/22 1:35pm

Hall might be the best at making the safest place, but that’s different

Ned Schneebly

9/27/22 1:42pm

I'm more confident in Hall taking care of the ball than any past QB.

CougarBreath

9/27/22 1:54pm

Still a little early for that.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/27/22 2:14pm

Wilson was the #2 pick in the NFL draft.

ThatBYUFan

9/27/22 2:16pm

Steve Young would have been #1, but he went USFL, so your point is correct

TheRowdy

9/27/22 2:17pm

Still think Wilson had better field vision and release but he’s dang good for sure!

NonmormonYfan89

9/27/22 4:21pm

Jaren is the best leader I would say

arizonacougarfan

9/27/22 4:29pm

He’s certainly my favorite

YIsForBrigham

9/27/22 4:51pm

I don’t know

provofan

9/27/22 5:00pm

RE: Hall is the best BYU QB since Detmer.

ninja math

9/27/22 5:39pm

He’s been very good but Sark was incredible and gets overlooked IMO

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