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Jul 7, 2015
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Gentleman Stan
Somewhat true. Most of the stars in '05, '06, and '07 weren't his recruits.
Some of them in '08 weren't his either. Kehl, Nixon, Denney, etc. were committed to BYU before Bronco was there.
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GRAPHIC: Comparing the first 10 years of Bronco and LaVell
waberson
7/6/15 10:26pm
Bronco fields a team of below-average athletes that consistently wins games
rdiddy801
7/6/15 10:46pm
Nice job on the graphic design.
Veracruz
7/6/15 11:16pm
The metric that counts
rmsenior
7/7/15 12:08am
It's just looking at the first 10 years for each of them. So '72-'82 for LaVell
cucciolo25
7/7/15 12:55am
Utah was not a good team back then. Easy win.
Cougarclaw
7/7/15 8:49am
Utah didn't become competitive until they hired Ron McBride.
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:11am
This comparison won't look even after 12 years. Lavell had BYU on a steep upward
ALUF 1990
7/7/15 3:28am
I could agree if Bronco had taken over directly from Lavell. But Crowton.
panguitch
7/7/15 8:32am
Bronco inherited excellent
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 11:49am
Most of the defensive players from 2006-2009 were his recruits
Littlerich
7/7/15 12:02pm
Somewhat true. Most of the stars in '05, '06, and '07 weren't his recruits.
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 12:04pm
Bronco had a better starting point thanks to Lavell's legacy. But
panguitch
7/7/15 12:19pm
It was three years of mismanagement, and major honor code issues.
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 12:37pm
BYU's "steep upward trajectory" ended in 1985
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:08am
Twice, 1990 and 1996... there were also some tremendous wins on the national
BerkeleyCoug
7/7/15 10:19am
Ugh. 1990. Nationally relevant to the point of a 65-14 shellacking in the bowl..
BarraCouga
7/7/15 10:36am
We spent two-thirds of the season in the Top 5 and our QB won the Heisman.
BerkeleyCoug
7/7/15 11:23am
What's the old saying...it's not where you start, it's where you finish?
BarraCouga
7/7/15 11:34am
It wasn't just the last two games of 1990. The first three of 1991 were awful
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 1:07pm
Why, why, WHY did you post that?
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 12:57pm
How do you explain away 5 ranked finishes, a Heisman trophy, a Top 5 bowl
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 11:51am
RE: How do you explain away 5 ranked finishes, a Heisman trophy, a Top 5 bowl
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 12:57pm
Cimsidering bm took nover a top 25 program amd lavell built one!
CarolinaCoug
7/7/15 4:02am
Gary Crowton did not leave a top 25 program.
Wingnut
7/7/15 5:18am
Bronco didn't take over a top 25 program
WhiteKnight
7/7/15 9:40am
Yes he did he didn't take o er a top 25 team
CarolinaCoug
7/8/15 6:34pm
Bronco has finished ranked in 5 of 10 years.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 4:40am
Great, now Bronco needs a Natl Championship & Heisman winner in next 10 years
zerome4sooners
7/7/15 6:58am
Critics? How about honest analysis? Lets start with your surface stats...
LEDSFW
7/7/15 7:23am
Let's add a little more honesty to your honest analysis.
Blue Cat
7/8/15 3:50pm
Thanks for those details. I love both, but think Bronco gets rough treatment...
eyes4byu
7/10/15 1:05pm
9-1 vs 3-6 says it all imo..
Heinz57
7/7/15 8:36am
I'm as discontent as anyone with Bronco's rivalry record. But
panguitch
7/7/15 8:42am
Lavell's record against the Utes during his first 19 seasons: 17-2
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:03am
Except Lavell had a hard time beating Utah State during his first 10 years.
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:00am
LaVell beat Utah and USU, so your point is what now?
Heinz57
7/7/15 2:19pm
You guys can't be this myopic
CasualFan
7/8/15 7:44am
LaVell still had a winning record against Utah, Bronco hasn't
Heinz57
7/8/15 12:17pm
Not in his last 9 games...
BarraCouga
7/8/15 12:34pm
You missed...
Heinz57
7/8/15 1:19pm
That's just lazy and contains no context.
BarraCouga
7/8/15 2:33pm
Watch out for "what ifs". Bronco is 4 miracle plays away from 0-9 against Utah
ALUF 1990
7/8/15 2:48pm
And he's also a play or two away from being 7-2.
BarraCouga
7/8/15 3:50pm
The point wasn't missed.
CasualFan
7/8/15 1:04pm
Even in all of LaVell seasons
Heinz57
7/8/15 1:21pm
Again...if you want to get as close as possible comparing apples to apples...
BarraCouga
7/8/15 2:37pm
Utter garbage
CasualFan
7/8/15 3:41pm
Record against Yewts really stands out
MajorZeus
7/7/15 8:47am
Not really. The Utes were New Mexico State in those years.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 9:11am
So you are satisfied with our recent performance against Utah? Pathetic.
MajorZeus
7/7/15 9:21am
Hmmm...not sure where you got that ludicrous assertion.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 9:31am
At the end of the day it is about wins and losses. Recruiting, invites, and
MajorZeus
7/7/15 10:43am
I don't obsess about Utah.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 11:06am
You sound like Bronco...just another game. It does matter for recruiting. Utah
MajorZeus
7/7/15 12:29pm
Again...to channel Inigo Montoya..."I dunno think I said what you said I said."
BarraCouga
7/7/15 1:05pm
So we agree...every game matters.
MajorZeus
7/7/15 1:13pm
ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...
BarraCouga
7/7/15 1:21pm
Lavell played SEVEN top-25 teams. bronco played 19 top 25 teams
Cougarclaw
7/7/15 8:52am
7 top 25 games versus 19 top 25 games, combined with similar w/l record means La
eyes4byu
7/7/15 11:03am
In other words, only 24 of Bronco's losses were to teams not in the top 25...
eyes4byu
7/7/15 11:06am
Lavell's top win was against #1 Miami, no?
WhiteKnight
7/7/15 9:37am
...first 10 years, duh, sorry
WhiteKnight
7/7/15 9:38am
RE: Go Figure!
Beetdiggercoug
7/7/15 9:58am
you have zero NC for Lavell. That's wrong
paulb
7/7/15 11:53am
ah, may have missed you were only picking certain years.....
paulb
7/7/15 11:54am
Yes, if by selective, he was comparing Bronco's entire coaching record to date..
gmj81
7/7/15 12:03pm
not sure if sarcastic or not.....
paulb
7/8/15 11:06pm
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