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Aug 23, 2017
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thebruce
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I've learned that most don't care about individuals, only institutions.
Student athletes should be able to transfer whenever they want without penalty.
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Article: Patrick Kinahan: Rules should force BYU to let Bernard leave without restriction
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[KSL.com]
Patrick Kinahan, KSL.com Contributor
8/23/17 10:27am
We have all agreed to let you leave without restriction PK
cougarmanguy
8/23/17 10:28am
Do we even know if FB has asked for a release? Isn't he still thinking it over-- despite what his bro says.
soupie
8/23/17 10:29am
no indication from any reliable source that it is true. Tuiaki withdrew his
cougarmanguy
8/23/17 10:30am
link?
Y4LYFE
8/23/17 11:07am
link to what? Tuiaki? It was discussed all day yesterda
cougarmanguy
8/23/17 11:15am
I get that PK is buddies with KW and all...
Eddie
8/23/17 10:32am
It's also pressing into ncaa ethically gray area
cougarmanguy
8/23/17 10:33am
Rules should force Patrick Kinahan to leave the state of Utah.
LiveY'r
8/23/17 10:33am
PK has the names wrong. The headline is more apt for the Tukuafua story.
84 Grad
8/23/17 10:35am
Definitely applies. It fits both situations.
BustinCoveys
8/23/17 10:58am
Does it fit the Bernard case? Is BYU withholding his transfer?
84 Grad
8/23/17 11:02am
Nobody knows.
BustinCoveys
8/23/17 11:07am
You should be able to restrict from teams on schedule over remaining eligiblity
Honor Code
8/23/17 10:40am
If you never attended the school or practice, you should be unrestricted (Joe T)
Honor Code
8/23/17 10:41am
There is even a Kyle Whittingham quote at the end that says just that
BrutustheBrash
8/23/17 10:50am
This headline is ridiculous. The article is just an argument that athletes
JustKeyrock
8/23/17 10:40am
PK writes an ethically bankrupt article. He is not forthcoming about the
darkcoug
8/23/17 10:42am
I agree with him. What's everyone's problem?
SoCalCoug
8/23/17 10:53am
I've learned that most don't care about individuals, only institutions.
thebruce
8/23/17 10:58am
Why can't both be protected?
cougfromcali
8/23/17 11:15am
Programs should have a right to kick someone out
thebruce
8/23/17 11:18am
Why should players have a right to transfer without penalty if it could...
cougfromcali
8/23/17 11:26am
Are you prohibited from receiving money from a 3rd party?
thebruce
8/23/17 11:44am
Hahaha, really? Only like every time. Non-competes and/or buyout penalties are
cougfromcali
8/23/17 11:52am
So wait, you can't take money if you sell some shoes or accept gifts?
thebruce
8/23/17 11:58am
I'm not talking about a competitor. I'm talking about a booster.
thebruce
8/23/17 11:59am
Sure, that's not all that uncommon either, but it depends on the job, of course.
cougfromcali
8/23/17 12:13pm
My point is you are acting like a student athlete is comparable to regular jobs
thebruce
8/23/17 12:24pm
Nobody forces them to sign their contracts. In fact, most students would give...
cougfromcali
8/23/17 1:40pm
Again, you are proving you care about institutions more than individuals.
thebruce
8/23/17 1:43pm
No, I really don't, I just care that contracts which benefit BOTH are honored.
cougfromcali
8/23/17 1:47pm
Yes, and I'm saying the contracts aren't fair to both.
thebruce
8/23/17 1:51pm
So, let me get this straight -- you're proposing that rival school boosters...
cougfromcali
8/23/17 1:59pm
RE: So, let me get this straight -- you're proposing that rival school
lstarr
8/23/17 2:06pm
Whoa ... where did you come from in this discussion?
ManicBlue
8/23/17 2:11pm
No I'm not talking about rivals at all.
thebruce
8/23/17 2:09pm
So you're not talking about FB at all then? Just trying to get your argument
ManicBlue
8/23/17 2:13pm
Is this a serious question?
cougfromcali
8/23/17 11:16am
Two big problems I see:
LiveY'r
8/23/17 11:44am
Based on all the KW quotes, there's nothing justifying the headline's assertion.
Accipiter
8/23/17 10:56am
Headlines are written by the copy desk, not the writer of the article. Seems they have
soupie
8/23/17 10:58am
Got it. PK basically wrote the headline in the first paragraph though, so in
Accipiter
8/23/17 11:59am
Yep, that's basically what they go off. Read the lead (1st paragraph or so) and write the headline.
soupie
8/23/17 12:06pm
He said the same exact thing many on here have said for days.
BustinCoveys
8/23/17 10:57am
Wonder why there was no article aimed at USU, this is clearly not an issue here
Jericho
8/23/17 10:58am
KSL, you shouldnt bother coming here. I never click on a PK garbarticle
Y4LYFE
8/23/17 11:07am
Love how the BYU player who hasn't announced anything is chosen for this article
zerome4sooners
8/23/17 11:34am
PK is a HACK!
DirkSpiderS
8/23/17 11:42am
If coaches can leave (they have penalties paid by the new school), then athletes
TailgateU
8/23/17 11:44am
Often coaches have non-competes too. Look at Bielema's contract at Arkansas...
cougfromcali
8/23/17 11:58am
Things have sure been quiet about Bernard
bluegato
8/23/17 12:19pm
That would be devastating for Bernard. He would be redshirting here but wouldn't
The Lone Star Cougar
8/23/17 12:24pm
IIRC, he could enroll at utah before Sept 1st in order to be eligible but can't
ManicBlue
8/23/17 2:05pm
He can enroll and even practice but he cannot get on schollie for a year
Jericho
8/23/17 2:11pm
PK is a tool. It's funny that the article is about BYU's handling of FB but the
ManicBlue
8/23/17 1:19pm
What a complete idiot. Coaches have contracts the same as players
youngbuck
8/23/17 1:30pm
RE: What a complete idiot. Coaches have contracts the same as players
lstarr
8/23/17 1:43pm
It's actually becoming more common for coaches to have non-competes as well.
cougfromcali
8/23/17 1:48pm
I didn't read his article the San
youngbuck
8/23/17 1:50pm
I didn't read his article the same way, missed the argument you made.
youngbuck
8/23/17 1:52pm
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