Have a role too. I would say it differently and would probably state those on this board as an afterthought in having a role in the contention. I won't even to pretend with you that you don't know what I mean by guilt. I have had a period in my life where I experienced the guilt of not living up to standards and separating myself from the faith. Thankfully I was brought back on course. I am very familiar with what that guilt can do to attitudes