just going from East Bay to Bulldog and might have jumped into the bus lane to bypass some of it. And I was just barely stuck on 5th West for 20 min for about the same distance. It's nuts. Never ends too because they've always got some construction in the pipeline. Oh, the bus route is done? Let's rip up Bulldog and 5th now. Then you try the side routes.....and they don't work all that well anymore either. Utah's really not that far away off from the non-freeway traffic of California. I feel like I'm cruising Beach Blvd Los Angeles/OC on a Friday night even in Springville and places like that at certain times.