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Aug 5, 2019
4:08:45pm

TheWanderer Playmaker

"Is there really additional learning and subject mastery going on?"

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What is your guess? Working in a job is more than just showing up and typing values into a spreadsheet and going home.

I mean, if a graduate degree is superfluous, what's to even say that formal education of any sort is useful. I took more bull crap classes as an *undergrad* than I ever did as a graduate student. Maybe we should just rid of college all together.

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POLL: Does it make sense to pursue a PhD ever unless your goal is to teach?

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:14pm

I mean, you’re thinking PhDs outside of the medical field, right?

Duke Silver

8/5/19 3:15pm

Do you mean MD?

8/5/19 3:16pm

Oh whoops, I was just thinking doctorate. Disregard my ignorant

Duke Silver

8/5/19 3:18pm

yeah, the non doctor doctors. Who still want to be called doctor. Those guys

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:16pm

In a hard science or a quantitative field, it can be a very good move

Baron

8/5/19 3:15pm

I would not have the job I have right now without a PhD.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 3:30pm

If you're an entrepreneur at heart - having a PhD will help you raise capital.

HarlemCoug

8/5/19 3:17pm

I'm honestly curious here. How does a PhD help?

WDaddy

8/5/19 9:17pm

if you are the inventor of a procedure or device and are a PhD, then it lends credibility to your company.

HarlemCoug

8/5/19 9:24pm

Analyst, demographer, researcher, experimental scientist, etc.

Byron McNertney

8/5/19 3:18pm

What about a PHD as an analyst and a therapist? Common? I have to imagine

Baron

8/5/19 3:19pm

and a masters degree in the field isn't enough?

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:20pm

For an analyst therapist? Like a Master Analyst Therapist?

Baron

8/5/19 3:21pm

There’s got to be a shorter way to say that

8/5/19 3:35pm

Any of those on here? What would it be?

Baron

8/5/19 3:37pm

This thread needs a new start

8/5/19 3:48pm

Government agencies, pharmaceutical companies, and places like that often require a PhD.

Byron McNertney

8/5/19 3:22pm

oh ok.

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:23pm

Sometimes, when seeking to perform a job, we don't want minimal sufficiency.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 3:44pm

I'm just not sure writing and researching for a big paper/dissertation thing

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:47pm

Yes. Quite so. And a PhD is a *cheaper* way to economize my training.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:04pm

I disagree with your assessment on on the job training v PhD re:costs.

jvquarterback

8/5/19 4:33pm

Having worked with some self trained statisticians......I'm not so sure.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:49pm

That's pretty bad. They're both undergrad tests and if a guy 20 years removed

jvquarterback

8/5/19 5:33pm

There are valid thoughts here.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 10:06pm

I will also add that I have yet to see a BS self train to a PhD level.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:55pm

"Is there really additional learning and subject mastery going on?"

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:08pm

are you even arguing the right thing? You said graduate degree which I

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 6:41pm

But a PhD has no value? Why does the value stop at a master's degree?

TheWanderer

8/5/19 10:04pm

I’ve found that a masters is more employable.

LaserCoug

8/5/19 10:08pm

I do think this is somewhat a result of the thoughts like the OP.

TheWanderer

8/6/19 10:45am

I work at a national lab and my masters isn’t quite enough.

LaserCoug

8/6/19 11:49am

I work at a national lab and they have no idea how to use a non-nuclear PhD...

TheWanderer

8/6/19 12:30pm

Totally depends on the program. I laugh at the number of mechanical engineer

LaserCoug

8/6/19 5:36pm

The dissertation is just the capstone project.

The Dark Knight

8/5/19 4:13pm

Lots of great opportunities in industry for engineering Ph.D.s

8/5/19 3:21pm

Certain types of mental health professionals need it IIRC

JollyGreenGiant

8/5/19 3:21pm

Principal, administrator, consultant, researcher, analyst, economist

Gustav

8/5/19 3:22pm

I got one and everyone on my R&D/Product Development team has one

2FarGone

8/5/19 3:28pm

My workplace is filled with them. Engineering/research requires a skill set

LaserCoug

8/5/19 3:34pm

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tassell

8/5/19 3:35pm

I worked at a fairly large aerospace company between undergrad and grad school.

AggieWeekendCougar

8/5/19 3:39pm

To be a licensed psychologist

The Dark Knight

8/5/19 3:46pm

Our R&D scientists in the lab need a PhD to be a boss. Engineers masters is req

Kauai

8/5/19 4:05pm

I Work with a bunch of phD statisticians in an academic pediatric department

Great38

8/5/19 4:09pm

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