I will also add that I have yet to see a BS self train to a PhD level.

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Aug 5, 2019
4:55:34pm

TheWanderer Playmaker

I will also add that I have yet to see a BS self train to a PhD level.

A master's person with some years of job training can do a lot of things, sure. But I have to make hiring decisions off of something, and it is usually much lower risk to hire the person with more education than it is to hire the less educated person and hope they can self educate.

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POLL: Does it make sense to pursue a PhD ever unless your goal is to teach?

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:14pm

I mean, you’re thinking PhDs outside of the medical field, right?

Duke Silver

8/5/19 3:15pm

Do you mean MD?

8/5/19 3:16pm

Oh whoops, I was just thinking doctorate. Disregard my ignorant

Duke Silver

8/5/19 3:18pm

yeah, the non doctor doctors. Who still want to be called doctor. Those guys

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:16pm

In a hard science or a quantitative field, it can be a very good move

Baron

8/5/19 3:15pm

I would not have the job I have right now without a PhD.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 3:30pm

If you're an entrepreneur at heart - having a PhD will help you raise capital.

HarlemCoug

8/5/19 3:17pm

I'm honestly curious here. How does a PhD help?

WDaddy

8/5/19 9:17pm

if you are the inventor of a procedure or device and are a PhD, then it lends credibility to your company.

HarlemCoug

8/5/19 9:24pm

Analyst, demographer, researcher, experimental scientist, etc.

Byron McNertney

8/5/19 3:18pm

What about a PHD as an analyst and a therapist? Common? I have to imagine

Baron

8/5/19 3:19pm

and a masters degree in the field isn't enough?

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:20pm

For an analyst therapist? Like a Master Analyst Therapist?

Baron

8/5/19 3:21pm

There’s got to be a shorter way to say that

8/5/19 3:35pm

Any of those on here? What would it be?

Baron

8/5/19 3:37pm

This thread needs a new start

8/5/19 3:48pm

Government agencies, pharmaceutical companies, and places like that often require a PhD.

Byron McNertney

8/5/19 3:22pm

oh ok.

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:23pm

Sometimes, when seeking to perform a job, we don't want minimal sufficiency.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 3:44pm

I'm just not sure writing and researching for a big paper/dissertation thing

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 3:47pm

Yes. Quite so. And a PhD is a *cheaper* way to economize my training.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:04pm

I disagree with your assessment on on the job training v PhD re:costs.

jvquarterback

8/5/19 4:33pm

Having worked with some self trained statisticians......I'm not so sure.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:49pm

That's pretty bad. They're both undergrad tests and if a guy 20 years removed

jvquarterback

8/5/19 5:33pm

There are valid thoughts here.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 10:06pm

I will also add that I have yet to see a BS self train to a PhD level.

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:55pm

"Is there really additional learning and subject mastery going on?"

TheWanderer

8/5/19 4:08pm

are you even arguing the right thing? You said graduate degree which I

Mayor of Cougartown

8/5/19 6:41pm

But a PhD has no value? Why does the value stop at a master's degree?

TheWanderer

8/5/19 10:04pm

I’ve found that a masters is more employable.

LaserCoug

8/5/19 10:08pm

I do think this is somewhat a result of the thoughts like the OP.

TheWanderer

8/6/19 10:45am

I work at a national lab and my masters isn’t quite enough.

LaserCoug

8/6/19 11:49am

I work at a national lab and they have no idea how to use a non-nuclear PhD...

TheWanderer

8/6/19 12:30pm

Totally depends on the program. I laugh at the number of mechanical engineer

LaserCoug

8/6/19 5:36pm

The dissertation is just the capstone project.

The Dark Knight

8/5/19 4:13pm

Lots of great opportunities in industry for engineering Ph.D.s

8/5/19 3:21pm

Certain types of mental health professionals need it IIRC

JollyGreenGiant

8/5/19 3:21pm

Principal, administrator, consultant, researcher, analyst, economist

Gustav

8/5/19 3:22pm

I got one and everyone on my R&D/Product Development team has one

2FarGone

8/5/19 3:28pm

My workplace is filled with them. Engineering/research requires a skill set

LaserCoug

8/5/19 3:34pm

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tassell

8/5/19 3:35pm

I worked at a fairly large aerospace company between undergrad and grad school.

AggieWeekendCougar

8/5/19 3:39pm

To be a licensed psychologist

The Dark Knight

8/5/19 3:46pm

Our R&D scientists in the lab need a PhD to be a boss. Engineers masters is req

Kauai

8/5/19 4:05pm

I Work with a bunch of phD statisticians in an academic pediatric department

Great38

8/5/19 4:09pm

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