Are changing their tune. He was trying to push the idea that Utah was such a big program and was the top 3 of the new PAC. He doesn't follow the realignment discussions closely and didn't realize Oregon and Washington are not taking Utah. Then he tried to claim Stanford was a big deal and much better then anyone in the B12.
I think by the end of the call my take was finally piercing his dense brain and then he changed the subject because he lives in SEC land that everyone is done in 5 years except the B10 and SEC.. sigh