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Division Bell

Previous username: BluePete
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Just had a mid-40's couple come in from Spain. Why do Euros look so much

Windward_Coug

Apr 10, 12:30pm

Vacation and not working so hard all the time.

joelvandyne

Apr 10, 12:32pm

Everybody take a break and go treat yourself.

joelvandyne

Apr 10, 12:33pm

much different lifestyles

mobicurious

Apr 10, 12:33pm

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inertiaman

Apr 10, 12:44pm

Having spent alot of time in western Europe, not only healthier but tastier.

Rudi

Apr 10, 2:36pm

totally agree with this

mobicurious

Apr 10, 2:40pm

HFCS

kccougar

Apr 10, 12:33pm

They eat real food, not manufactured/arranged chemicals and non-nutritive GMO crap. There's a reason why the EU bans

Division Bell

Apr 10, 12:34pm

This. Even their ultra-processed food is better than ours (added sugar)

Longseason

Apr 10, 12:40pm

I'd be interested in eating like a Euro for a month just to see how I feel. I

Windward_Coug

Apr 10, 12:40pm

A good place to start is Dr. Greger's book, How Not to Die

Division Bell

Apr 10, 12:44pm

Do you know what the website is?

rcbyufan

Apr 10, 12:47pm

Here

Division Bell

Apr 10, 12:48pm

He wants you to give up all meat and animal Based food

A Drew Aitch

Apr 10, 12:48pm

LOL. Not happening.

rcbyufan

Apr 10, 12:54pm

RE: LOL. Not happening.

Division Bell

Apr 10, 4:38pm

FTR, I'm a big believer that there's no 1 single best diet for every body. So

rcbyufan

Apr 10, 4:53pm

It's pretty simple. All real, all organic. Not a lot synthetic food

Coug Dude

Apr 10, 3:50pm

The gmo and processed food Boogeyman is funny to me. The sisters in our mission got really fat eating

CSoul

Apr 10, 12:43pm

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stoils

Apr 10, 12:45pm

Dr. Greger's assessment of his own industry disagrees with you.

Division Bell

Apr 10, 12:45pm

Talking about GMO is dumb. Most people don't even know what GMO is and isn't and they just say it to

CSoul

Apr 10, 12:52pm

Yeah, Europeans are noticeably getting fatter

Gustav

Apr 10, 1:34pm

Dr. Greger

Soren Tversky

Apr 10, 1:00pm

GMO boogie man is the best

stoils

Apr 10, 12:46pm

I don't think some of you understand what GMO really means

AFtotheNW

Apr 10, 2:19pm

I'll tell you one thing... 🇮🇹

AFtotheNW

Apr 10, 12:56pm

None of our wheat in the US is GMO. No variety exists that is approved. Again, it's a Boogeyman.

CSoul

Apr 10, 12:59pm

While the wheat is not GMO, the additives to commercial breads are toxic in many

mobicurious

Apr 10, 1:02pm

He specifically said wheat. And what additive are you specifically talking about? I make sourdough

CSoul

Apr 10, 1:06pm

a shelf-stable Arby's bun is going to have 20-30 ingredients

mobicurious

Apr 10, 1:09pm

I know. The question is does it impact your health negatively enough to matter? I don't

CSoul

Apr 10, 1:13pm

I lived in the EU for a few years and my health significantly improved

mobicurious

Apr 10, 1:15pm

Show me the facts there. I have a hard time believing it.

AFtotheNW

Apr 10, 1:03pm

You can Google the GMO thing. It's easy to find.

CSoul

Apr 10, 1:09pm

Yeah not disagreeing with you about that.

AFtotheNW

Apr 10, 2:45pm

And no snacking between meals. During all my time in France, I never saw anyone

LeGrandBleu

Apr 10, 1:11pm

It's always funny to me when we talk about GMO like it's some horrible thing that is ruining our health. It seems

SpecialT

Apr 10, 2:10pm

I'd be interested in knowing their sleep habits. I was recently watching a show about how not getting 7-8 hours of

slappy

Apr 10, 12:37pm

yes, but why do Europeans (esp Italians) go from 31 years old to 63 years old in less than a year?

RSL

Apr 10, 12:38pm

RE: yes, but why do Europeans (esp Italians) go from 31 years old to 63 years

Monomachos

Apr 10, 12:42pm

The average European walks a lot

donnerstag

Apr 10, 12:43pm

Spain… Mediterranean diet combined with a more liberal work/life balance and

BoiseBlueCoug

Apr 10, 12:43pm

It's the antioxidants from drinking 1-2 glass of wine/ day along with low carbs, and non-processed protien

BIG XII Coug

Apr 10, 12:44pm

Alcohol consumption is the key

foofcoug

Apr 10, 12:47pm

I've lived in Spain for a bit. Here are a few thoughts (echoing some above):

inertiaman

Apr 10, 12:45pm

"people don't seem to work as hard as they do in the US."

Iman23

Apr 10, 12:50pm

Probably not fat

Jericho

Apr 10, 12:46pm

Lots of these answers. Also cigarettes.

HBCoug

Apr 10, 12:49pm

As in the smoking helps them lose weight?

Great38

Apr 10, 12:56pm

Studies show that nicotine is an appetite suppressant.

benny1982

Apr 10, 1:09pm

Ok yeah, just trying to clarify how the cigs make them healthier. Haha.

Great38

Apr 10, 1:29pm

Haha, just meant skinnier. Not necessarily healthier.

HBCoug

Apr 10, 1:34pm

In New York, I could always spot the Europeans. Much slimmer. And ...

KCFan85

Apr 10, 12:52pm

Self selection. Which Europeans are vacationing to New York? Not the chavs…

Soren Tversky

Apr 10, 1:03pm

Go to a European football/soccer match and look at the difference

mobicurious

Apr 10, 1:05pm

heh heh, yes, it's stereotyping, but when we have global meetings, my German

Hawk in the 303

Apr 10, 1:05pm

Yup. It's kinda comical. But I really could spot the French before ...

KCFan85

Apr 10, 1:15pm

Unless they were Berliners

mobicurious

Apr 10, 1:19pm

People are skinny in New York the same way they are skinny in Europe, cause they walk a lot

TCuz

Apr 10, 1:09pm

Bingo.

CSoul

Apr 10, 1:14pm

Came here to say this. Europe’s population density is so much higher on average

holipuluki

Apr 10, 2:06pm

Do they have Swigs on every corner over there?

4slyce

Apr 10, 12:54pm

They eat less, walk more, work less, smoke more.

JuicyJam

Apr 10, 1:02pm

Mediterranean diet. Less likely to be work-aholics, more getting outdoors.

Mitty

Apr 10, 1:08pm

Here is an interesting statistic, and it probably isn't isolated in terms of

Acorn

Apr 10, 1:23pm

Portion size is probably the biggest factor

Great38

Apr 10, 1:30pm

Don’t worry, shrinkflation is helping with that!

baishel44

Apr 10, 3:54pm

the American experiment with suburbanism is largely a disaster

runnincoug

Apr 10, 1:48pm

And your rent was double

stoils

Apr 10, 2:10pm

It wasn't though. We rented our home out here, and used that money to rent there

runnincoug

Apr 10, 2:43pm

So....socialism?

krindorr

Apr 10, 4:02pm

Sure, but I'm just responding to the OP about why Europeans are healthy.

runnincoug

Apr 10, 4:06pm

as I have gotten older, currently mid-60's, I am leaning more and more to the

BYURider

Apr 10, 1:52pm

It’s called selection bias. You see the healthy looking Europeans because they

Jelly Man

Apr 10, 2:00pm

Does that apply to Americans that travel to Europe?

rcbyufan

Apr 10, 2:12pm

It really depends on where you're at and what kind of traveler

mobicurious

Apr 10, 2:44pm

Having lived in Europe for long stretches, totally disagree with this

mobicurious

Apr 10, 2:42pm

Their food is pure. Our food is synthetic. My buddy moved to France, lost 30 lbs

Coug Dude

Apr 10, 3:44pm

He obviously changed what he ate.

JuicyJam

Apr 10, 3:51pm

They eat less and walk (MUCH) more

Bobby Lee Swagger

Apr 10, 3:58pm

My own formula for staying lean. Eat better + move more. It works.

KCFan85

Apr 10, 5:17pm

They smoke and drink that suppresses their eating

BYU Grounds

Apr 10, 5:01pm

They’re probably rich. Rich people are thin, regardless of continent.

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