I only believe it because I heard it from a coach.

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Aug 26, 2014
11:52:08am

Walter Bellhaven

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Walter Bellhaven

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Maybe this is why BYU isnt P5

Dodger

8/26/14 9:42am

That and the Mormon thing and you might be on to something.

BarraCouga

8/26/14 9:43am

Stop with the Mormon thing.

DoseOfReality

8/26/14 9:54am

Says a guy whose school got in only because it's not a Mormon school.

BarraCouga

8/26/14 9:57am

"My" school was a founding member of a P5. The libs in the P5 didn't snub BYU

DoseOfReality

8/26/14 12:42pm

It's only bigotry in the completely delusional and warped mind of liberals.

BarraCouga

8/26/14 12:51pm

I am explaining why they excluded BYU. I am not them.

DoseOfReality

8/26/14 1:07pm

Sorry... Prop 8 is a recent thing

PolarisPrime

8/26/14 1:07pm

Read the last line of your post and then look in the mirror.

DoseOfReality

8/26/14 1:29pm

Maybe I am wrong about the prop 8 timing

PolarisPrime

8/26/14 1:34pm

There were reports that the P10 wouldn't allow Baylor to come

GSwarriorcoug

8/26/14 4:32pm

Link

GSwarriorcoug

8/26/14 5:25pm

No mention of Baylor

DoseOfReality

8/26/14 8:26pm

"No one in the Pac-10 will say it aloud, but a religious school like BYU isn't"

BarraCouga

8/26/14 8:39pm

No, but he mentions that when Larry Scott says "cultural fit"

GSwarriorcoug

8/26/14 11:33pm

Game, set, match.

BarraCouga

8/27/14 7:34am

Well that seems to exclude about 100% of their expansion options

Harrison0Yfan

8/27/14 7:35am

If you are talking undergrad BYU is one of the best in the country.

PolarisPrime

8/27/14 10:42am

Exactly - last point is money.

Harrison0Yfan

8/27/14 5:06pm

If the PAC goes to 14 teams

PolarisPrime

8/27/14 5:16pm

Let's hope so!

Harrison0Yfan

8/27/14 9:58pm

RE: That and the Mormon thing and you might be on to something.

FT487

8/26/14 10:03am

It's because Bronco has 4 things to worry about before he gets to football.

BYUisLife

8/26/14 9:43am

That's like the old "Four out of Five doctors recommend" ads. Your

gwalker

8/26/14 9:45am

It would have been a nice bonus, but that's not the reason

DapperDan

8/26/14 9:46am

0.5: If you are so deluded to believe that the reason for inclusion has

Mathlete

8/26/14 9:49am

They're not P5 because there are a handful of people that think

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 9:49am

Go watch Elder Bednar's talk to open education week.

Blue Print

8/26/14 10:05am

Thanks! Now, back to football...

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 10:10am

At BYU they are inseparable.

Blue Print

8/26/14 10:12am

Yeah it bugs me so much. I can't tell you how many times I feel the spirit when

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 10:16am

You can separate it all you want. But the BOT aren't going to.

Blue Print

8/26/14 10:56am

There is a difference between furthering the work and staying out of the work's

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 11:04am

BYU football is the 3rd most visible presence the church has.

Blue Print

8/26/14 11:21am

I agree with most of that. My last post mentioned the word "efficient".

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 11:24am

I don't believe there is a "divine destiny" for BYU Football. But I do believe

Blue Print

8/26/14 11:29am

It's not hard to find those dolls painted in any American team.

Utertuter

8/26/14 2:09pm

You think that if it gives you comfort.

Marking Time

8/26/14 11:23am

You think the opposite if it gives you comfort.

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 11:30am

You've bought into an urban legend, my friend.

Marking Time

8/26/14 11:43am

I only believe it because I heard it from a coach.

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 11:52am

And coaches are immune to urban legends?

Marking Time

8/26/14 3:01pm

This coach didn't say "I believe..."

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 3:06pm

Because that is what he heard through the scuttlebutt.

Marking Time

8/26/14 3:09pm

Haha, gotcha.

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 3:15pm

Amazing how many more bcs teams BYU was playing compared to Utah

byusage

8/26/14 9:49am

Utah was smarter, their crappy schedules got them 2 BCS bowls.

Walter Bellhaven

8/26/14 9:50am

They played 4 ranked teams that year.

DoseOfReality

8/26/14 9:55am

. . .compared to Utah and everyone else really

byusage

8/26/14 9:52am

I don't get the 'without' Moore comparison - run Patterson without Dalton???

Avery

8/26/14 9:50am

It doesn't match his narrative.

PolarisPrime

8/26/14 11:39am

Whitt vs P5 teams this decade: 12-19 = .387

Mathlete

8/26/14 9:51am

That's worse than Bronco! Fewer games and lower win percentage.

byusage

8/26/14 10:02am

brain just exploded....

whiteninja

8/26/14 12:44pm

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BYU81

8/26/14 9:51am

Sadly, Utah stopped walking the walk in 2012......

lawboy

8/26/14 9:57am

Utah stopped walking the walk in 2009

Flyingdolphin

8/26/14 5:42pm

now take the record of the lower half of P5 teams vs. P5 competition

Beggar

8/26/14 10:02am

Maybe that's why BSU was selected instead of Utah

Braves Fan

8/26/14 10:04am

One overriding reason and one overriding reason only:

Blue Print

8/26/14 10:06am

Lol.

GOBIGBLUE

8/26/14 2:49pm

Why doesn't the record as a P5 coach matter?

Extra Biscuits

8/26/14 11:30am

RE: Why doesn't the record as a P5 coach matter?

GOBIGBLUE

8/26/14 2:55pm

80% != 57% based on OP

Extra Biscuits

8/26/14 3:12pm

If you think it has anything to do with on-the-field performance, you're crazy

ChunkyBasty

8/26/14 11:42am

Utah averaged a 3rd place finish in the MWC

jsjohnson1278

8/26/14 12:12pm

Never got the research school thing. We are so a research school.

Harrison0Yfan

8/26/14 2:30pm

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

Ironhide

8/26/14 2:58pm

Research schools tend to have

jsjohnson1278

8/26/14 5:46pm

This makes more sense. Wish they would have expressed it this way.

Harrison0Yfan

8/27/14 7:30am

You think Utah played their way into the PAC12? lol

Jericho

8/26/14 12:28pm

So does that mean that Wake Forest, Kansas, Kentucky, etc shouldn't be P5?

slatecoug

8/26/14 2:46pm

Spare Me, if it was football related, then Boise State would be in the PAC

boyblue

8/26/14 3:36pm

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