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Nov 22, 2017
1:40:25pm

Lance71 All-American

The HCO is not at all what the media makes it out to be. I'm guessing you are

basing your "witch hunt" comment on only the famous athlete publicly debated cases. Most of those cases, the reporting is only on the tail end of a long ongoing process that has been going on for a long time.

The HCO suspends kids as pretty much a last resort. From the cases I have seen, the HCO office does exactly what you are asking them to do.

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Biggest Issue with BYU going forward

Canusa

11/22/17 12:01pm

Recruiting a bunch of upper class, mission first, white, +30 ACT kids from

Ulysses14

11/22/17 12:09pm

You realize that nearly all of their recruits don't satisfy your

basman

11/22/17 12:23pm

Which criteria in particular do you take issue with?

Ulysses14

11/22/17 12:28pm

Majority are polynesian, i.e., not white, and most wouldn't be accepted

basman

11/22/17 12:33pm

Went through the roster. Roughly 50% white, 40% Utahns, and I believe the

Ulysses14

11/22/17 4:43pm

However..building a pro style offense and running

11/22/17 7:08pm

these guys don’t have 30+ ACTs. Get real

reddead

11/22/17 6:39pm

the rebuttal to this argument is that there is probably 2-3 times more Mormons

Bostonblue

11/22/17 12:15pm

BYU's admissions requirements for athletes is on par with Stanford and far above

CSoul

11/22/17 12:20pm

Byu simply needs to lower the admission standards.

11/22/17 12:26pm

I don't think this is accurate. But I agree w/ you that I'm fine w/ lowering

Bostonblue

11/22/17 12:29pm

I've heard it from multiple people including Bronco. There were only 3-4 schools

CSoul

11/22/17 12:39pm

Nope. Dayan Lake got into BYU as an academic non-qualifer. see post below.

CougLuv1

11/22/17 6:06pm

Completely inaccurate, it is in fact the opposite.

Cougstreak

11/22/17 9:29pm

Mormons today are probably worse at football and basketball than the ones who

Ulysses14

11/22/17 12:26pm

If so, that's not a good trend.

Bostonblue

11/22/17 12:30pm

Signed, Tanner Mckee

ditch

11/23/17 1:03am

Academically even more than ecclesiastically surprisingly. Bronco said that

CSoul

11/22/17 12:18pm

Bronco recruited a lot of non-lds kids

Mises

11/22/17 12:19pm

for Honor Code, against Honor Code office

BYURider

11/22/17 12:25pm

Yep, it's become a bit of a witch hunt organization.

Mises

11/22/17 12:37pm

The HCO is not at all what the media makes it out to be. I'm guessing you are

Lance71

11/22/17 1:40pm

The HCO is horrible. It was militant back in the late 1980's and it is out of

Oatmeal

11/22/17 2:18pm

You had an experience with the HCO in the 80's and think you know how it works?

Lance71

11/22/17 2:25pm

It’s funny the Lords university avoids the weak, the sinner, and the less

cougsrule

11/22/17 12:28pm

RE: It’s funny the Lords university avoids the weak, the sinner, and the

11/22/17 12:35pm

ehhh - not really that funny or interesting, tbh

The Shazad

11/22/17 12:36pm

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Hill4Heisman

11/22/17 12:44pm

This is a stupid statement. The church does a ton for these people...

Shore10

11/22/17 4:31pm

Well you kind of just emphasized my point. So thank you.

cougsrule

11/22/17 6:21pm

Incredible you think I made your point.

Shore10

11/22/17 7:26pm

You did. Very well actually. You will have to ask someone to explain how

11/22/17 7:30pm

So not true.

ditch

11/23/17 1:05am

staying healthy and starting the same QB for at least 10 games in a row

BigYfan

11/22/17 12:30pm

The school isnt there as an aid to the sports. Standards are what they are.

Count Cougar

11/22/17 2:30pm

according to Bronco, BYU FB is one of the most (if not the most) visible

Bostonblue

11/22/17 2:38pm

You still dont lower standards.

Count Cougar

11/22/17 4:36pm

If it means the FB program dies, you sure as heck do. It's not a big deal to

Bostonblue

11/22/17 4:42pm

And open themselves up to a law suit. Great idea.

Count Cougar

11/22/17 5:30pm

non-athletes are not a protected class. Discriminate away.

Bostonblue

11/22/17 5:32pm

They already have. Academic standards for athletes are a complete joke

Dissenter

11/22/17 4:46pm

It should be.

11/22/17 3:08pm

Kalin Hall was in my ward undergrad

Coogar2

11/22/17 3:11pm

Let’s buy UVU and put all the smart people there and all the athletes at BYU

youngster

11/22/17 3:41pm

2004 will do that to you

demon_llama

11/22/17 4:33pm

Can we PLEASE drop this 'academic requirement' BS when it comes to football

Dissenter

11/22/17 4:39pm

WRONG

Canusa

11/22/17 4:49pm

Think about it. Is BYU THAT good of a school?

Dissenter

11/22/17 4:54pm

Then is the coach lying to me?

Canusa

11/22/17 5:22pm

Nope.... The coach was 100% correct and your description is spot on.

TheLost

11/22/17 8:59pm

Canusa - you're right about the letter, but missing part of the story

CougLuv1

11/22/17 6:03pm

That is not entirely accurate. The PAC12, for example, allows 4 non-qualifiers

NewMexiCoug

11/22/17 8:20pm

I can confirm this, but that was under Bronco and self-administered.

NewMexiCoug

11/22/17 8:00pm

Biggest issue is not playing as a unit

Coogar2

11/22/17 6:00pm

I'm surprised people agree with this at all...going forward? This is same ole

palangi

11/22/17 6:03pm

Seriously? NOBODY noticed that in a post by a former athlete bemoaning the new

11/22/17 6:14pm

The Honor Code office needs to be more Christ-like and lead with Mercy...

icecougar

11/22/17 6:53pm

Anyone who thinks BYU can compete in the new P5 dominated CF, Delusional!

blackshirts

11/22/17 7:21pm

It wasn't a Bronco directive, it came from AD/Bot directive

Blue2thebone

11/22/17 7:53pm

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