The Honor Code office needs to be more Christ-like and lead with Mercy...

Nov 22, 2017
6:53:56pm

icecougar All-American

...rather than the way they appear to lead...with a hammer. I've sat in many church disciplinary councils that were far more merciful, loving and focused on the well-being of the individual than the HCO seems to be.

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Biggest Issue with BYU going forward

Canusa

11/22/17 12:01pm

Recruiting a bunch of upper class, mission first, white, +30 ACT kids from

Ulysses14

11/22/17 12:09pm

You realize that nearly all of their recruits don't satisfy your

basman

11/22/17 12:23pm

Which criteria in particular do you take issue with?

Ulysses14

11/22/17 12:28pm

Majority are polynesian, i.e., not white, and most wouldn't be accepted

basman

11/22/17 12:33pm

Went through the roster. Roughly 50% white, 40% Utahns, and I believe the

Ulysses14

11/22/17 4:43pm

However..building a pro style offense and running

CarolinaCoug

11/22/17 7:08pm

these guys don’t have 30+ ACTs. Get real

reddead

11/22/17 6:39pm

the rebuttal to this argument is that there is probably 2-3 times more Mormons

Bostonblue

11/22/17 12:15pm

BYU's admissions requirements for athletes is on par with Stanford and far above

CSoul

11/22/17 12:20pm

Byu simply needs to lower the admission standards.

CarolinaCoug

11/22/17 12:26pm

I don't think this is accurate. But I agree w/ you that I'm fine w/ lowering

Bostonblue

11/22/17 12:29pm

I've heard it from multiple people including Bronco. There were only 3-4 schools

CSoul

11/22/17 12:39pm

Nope. Dayan Lake got into BYU as an academic non-qualifer. see post below.

CougLuv1

11/22/17 6:06pm

Completely inaccurate, it is in fact the opposite.

Cougstreak

11/22/17 9:29pm

Mormons today are probably worse at football and basketball than the ones who

Ulysses14

11/22/17 12:26pm

If so, that's not a good trend.

Bostonblue

11/22/17 12:30pm

Signed, Tanner Mckee

ditch

11/23/17 1:03am

Academically even more than ecclesiastically surprisingly. Bronco said that

CSoul

11/22/17 12:18pm

Bronco recruited a lot of non-lds kids

Mises

11/22/17 12:19pm

for Honor Code, against Honor Code office

BYURider

11/22/17 12:25pm

Yep, it's become a bit of a witch hunt organization.

Mises

11/22/17 12:37pm

The HCO is not at all what the media makes it out to be. I'm guessing you are

Lance71

11/22/17 1:40pm

The HCO is horrible. It was militant back in the late 1980's and it is out of

Oatmeal

11/22/17 2:18pm

You had an experience with the HCO in the 80's and think you know how it works?

Lance71

11/22/17 2:25pm

It’s funny the Lords university avoids the weak, the sinner, and the less

cougsrule

11/22/17 12:28pm

RE: It’s funny the Lords university avoids the weak, the sinner, and the

Cougar Insider

11/22/17 12:35pm

ehhh - not really that funny or interesting, tbh

The Shazad

11/22/17 12:36pm

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Hill4Heisman

11/22/17 12:44pm

This is a stupid statement. The church does a ton for these people...

Shore10

11/22/17 4:31pm

Well you kind of just emphasized my point. So thank you.

cougsrule

11/22/17 6:21pm

Incredible you think I made your point.

Shore10

11/22/17 7:26pm

You did. Very well actually. You will have to ask someone to explain how

CarolinaCoug

11/22/17 7:30pm

So not true.

ditch

11/23/17 1:05am

staying healthy and starting the same QB for at least 10 games in a row

BigYfan

11/22/17 12:30pm

The school isnt there as an aid to the sports. Standards are what they are.

Count Cougar

11/22/17 2:30pm

according to Bronco, BYU FB is one of the most (if not the most) visible

Bostonblue

11/22/17 2:38pm

You still dont lower standards.

Count Cougar

11/22/17 4:36pm

If it means the FB program dies, you sure as heck do. It's not a big deal to

Bostonblue

11/22/17 4:42pm

And open themselves up to a law suit. Great idea.

Count Cougar

11/22/17 5:30pm

non-athletes are not a protected class. Discriminate away.

Bostonblue

11/22/17 5:32pm

They already have. Academic standards for athletes are a complete joke

Dissenter

11/22/17 4:46pm

It should be.

All-American

11/22/17 3:08pm

Kalin Hall was in my ward undergrad

Coogar2

11/22/17 3:11pm

Let’s buy UVU and put all the smart people there and all the athletes at BYU

youngster

11/22/17 3:41pm

2004 will do that to you

demon_llama

11/22/17 4:33pm

Can we PLEASE drop this 'academic requirement' BS when it comes to football

Dissenter

11/22/17 4:39pm

WRONG

Canusa

11/22/17 4:49pm

Think about it. Is BYU THAT good of a school?

Dissenter

11/22/17 4:54pm

Then is the coach lying to me?

Canusa

11/22/17 5:22pm

Nope.... The coach was 100% correct and your description is spot on.

TheLost

11/22/17 8:59pm

Canusa - you're right about the letter, but missing part of the story

CougLuv1

11/22/17 6:03pm

That is not entirely accurate. The PAC12, for example, allows 4 non-qualifiers

NewMexiCoug

11/22/17 8:20pm

I can confirm this, but that was under Bronco and self-administered.

NewMexiCoug

11/22/17 8:00pm

Biggest issue is not playing as a unit

Coogar2

11/22/17 6:00pm

I'm surprised people agree with this at all...going forward? This is same ole

palangi

11/22/17 6:03pm

Seriously? NOBODY noticed that in a post by a former athlete bemoaning the new

LeftOfNormal

11/22/17 6:14pm

The Honor Code office needs to be more Christ-like and lead with Mercy...

icecougar

11/22/17 6:53pm

Anyone who thinks BYU can compete in the new P5 dominated CF, Delusional!

blackshirts

11/22/17 7:21pm

It wasn't a Bronco directive, it came from AD/Bot directive

Blue2thebone

11/22/17 7:53pm

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