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Apr 5, 2024
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kimdaddy35
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Yes and this year he will be sophomore. Not sure what you are even trying to
point out.
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Lot's of Kalani bashing going on again. I believe there is strong indicator...
TheLoneCougar
Adrielle?!
Apr 5, 5:37am
We know who Kalani is at this point. He's not suddenly going to become
bald man
Apr 5, 5:39am
He has a year or two left
Deleted
Apr 5, 5:45am
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Charles Darwin
Apr 5, 6:33am
I love that take but so does almost every other P4 head coach out there
theonick
Apr 5, 8:53am
The sooner he is gone, the better.
DeepCCoug
Apr 5, 3:36pm
Well if that is your expectation...sorry.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 6:01am
BYU is never going to be a title contender
Charles Darwin
Apr 5, 6:31am
You have to at least be a player in the race for the conference title.
maYbe
Apr 5, 7:05am
So you have to be top 25 every year? BYU hasn’t been that in 30 years
Charles Darwin
Apr 5, 7:17am
If they aren't then fan support will slowly wane.
maYbe
Apr 5, 7:30am
It’s pretty good for not doing that for 30 years
Charles Darwin
Apr 5, 7:49am
Don't have to be Top 25 every year, but we're at 2 Top 25 seasons in 15 years
krindorr
Apr 5, 10:41pm
I hate to break it to you but BYU has never been a title contender.
davidmj10
Apr 5, 9:47am
Ute Troll
BYU Grounds
Apr 5, 10:54am
Here is the real reason why BYU was a title contender in 1984: 1979, 1980, 1981,
Gorum the Old
Apr 5, 4:19pm
And this is never talked about. So much so I didn’t even know all of that and
ColonelMustard
Apr 5, 6:46pm
That is a good point. And they had just come off huge QB’s that were
davidmj10
Apr 5, 7:55pm
That was what was said pre 1984. The College landscape has changed remarkably since then. BYU needs to find a way to..
BYU Grounds
Apr 5, 10:03am
The past 40 years would suggest you caught lightning in a bottle and were
CallSign
Apr 5, 11:28am
Why are you even posting here? I thought that Cougarboard was for BYU fans, and
84 natlchamps
Apr 6, 2:01pm
RE: BYU is never going to be a title contender
OldFogey
Apr 5, 10:48am
This is a really good point.
BlueFever
Apr 5, 8:02am
Lavell exploited a weakness, crappy pass defense, that doesn't exist today. He
qwerew
Apr 5, 12:17pm
And...Lavell was probably the 1st coach to develop a passing game, to the degree
84 natlchamps
Apr 6, 2:06pm
Once he he gets his players…
Longseason
Apr 5, 8:26am
His record is similar to Sark's or Kiffin's at this same point.
Socrates Johnson
Apr 5, 11:17am
So he’s like 90% of college coaches
Honor Code
Apr 5, 11:19am
he doesn't have access to "National Championship" players so that's a stupid
qwerew
Apr 5, 12:12pm
National Championship or bust is a terrible way to live
Ghost Pirate LeChuck
Apr 6, 4:02pm
Connor stayed because of TJ Woods coaching the Oline.
HighHorse
Apr 5, 5:50am
In your scenario, you think someone of Pay's talent level stays with TJ Wood and an inept HC?
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 6:03am
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Deleted
Apr 5, 6:17am
No, everyone did not "poo poo the hire of TJ Woods as another lazy hire of a mediocre OL coach"
HighHorse
Apr 5, 6:35am
I specifically remember multiple post about the Woods hire being lazy.
TheHop
Apr 5, 8:20am
I personally remember posting that TJ was a great hire!
AzCugrFan
Apr 5, 8:25am
We should note the people that said this. Sounds like lazy posting.
rcbyufan
Apr 5, 8:28am
does "multiple posts" mean everybody?
HighHorse
Apr 5, 8:49am
No, in that you have a point.
TheHop
Apr 5, 10:03am
True but Connor also came back because
I'mBatman
Apr 5, 6:00pm
Connor had the option of transferring. He recognized that he needed to get better
HighHorse
Apr 6, 7:16am
He could have gone somewhere else and got better too, but chose not to.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 6, 8:51am
who got rid of the last coach and brought in the new one?
FieroCoug
Apr 5, 11:13am
Connor graded among the worst on the oline last year
DOdoubleG
Apr 5, 6:18am
That is not only wrong but a full on lie.
Hammer15
Apr 6, 11:29am
KS has the most difficult job in all of College football
Hammer15
Apr 6, 11:52am
Kalani is a fantastic ambassador for BYU and the church. He loves the players
SpudNut
Apr 5, 7:05am
Also a very marginal tactician and x/o guy.
kotacoug
Apr 5, 7:06am
You may be right but I don’t have a technical football mind so can’t make
SpudNut
Apr 5, 7:17am
Ooh. I want to know what No. 2 was.
Ham
Apr 5, 8:05am
It wasn't until this year that we had the same number of recruiting staff
Zombre
Apr 5, 8:26am
This is a legitimate criticism and if Kalani wants to emulate Lavell, he needs to let and encourage his coordinators to
BYU Grounds
Apr 5, 10:23am
Thank you for a reasonable and well thought out response.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:33am
4) no attention to the details. Turfgate is exhibit A. Not only did the team have the wrong cleats for the conditions
Blue2thebone
Apr 7, 12:05am
Getting “BYU guys” to stay at BYU is a VERY low bar of “success” to coaching…
BamaCoug
Apr 5, 7:21am
Well said
TNT
Apr 5, 8:01am
I never said it was the bar, I said it was indicator that he is likely doing a better job than CBers care to believe.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:15am
BYU has been the fall back position when LDS players don't pan out at other places.
BYU Grounds
Apr 5, 12:32pm
It’s ok to admit that KS is both a great guy, rep of church, but not a good HC
Frankfromtheballpark
Apr 5, 7:24am
I think that is my point. If he wasn't a good HC, you'd likely be seeing more player attrition, no?
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:15am
Nope. It’s not like we have a lot of guys with options elsewhere…
Frankfromtheballpark
Apr 5, 5:09pm
That is not true at all. The majority of our starters would be able to transfer to another school and get meaningful
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:44pm
If you want BYU to consistently stay in the bottom half of the conference
BlueFever
Apr 5, 7:52am
Last season there was a mass exodus
Blue2thebone
Apr 5, 8:04am
Which impactful players are you referring to?
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:16am
Kalani is only as good as his assistants. We have a mediocre OC.
BostonCougar
Apr 5, 8:11am
And he is only as good as his ability to find decent assistants
BigHouse Coug
Apr 5, 10:57am
and the OC is at least as undisciplined and unorganized as Kalani
AZ Coug
Apr 6, 10:49pm
Based on this analysis, what % of coaches are doing a good job?
scrambled egg
Apr 5, 8:18am
This is a good question. Every team outside of the top 15 has 'bad coaches' –
Benfica1
Apr 5, 8:41am
I said "indicator" with Kalani specifically. I am not comparing him to other coaches or programs.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:17am
Kalani is a good, but not elite coach – at this point. His results have been
Benfica1
Apr 5, 8:32am
It’s not just elite vs inept. Kalani can be in the middle and be an amazing guy
MrSandman
Apr 5, 8:38am
I said an indicator and at no point said he was amazing. Also, the OP is targeting to those who feel he is terrible.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:19am
Being a good likeable person is not the same as being a good coach.
AltTabbins
Apr 5, 9:33am
100% the point I am making. If you were a D1 talented player, would you stay because your coach was just likable?
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:20am
We sure could have used our All American guard last year. How about an All
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 9:58am
Seriously...
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:25am
You are too funny. Basically you say he keeps all of his guys and when someone
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 11:52am
He didn't say Kalani keeps all of his guys. Go back and read it again.
Rise Against
Apr 5, 11:56am
He also said a whole bunch of other stuff like:
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 12:43pm
Come on KimBigDaddy....
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 1:25pm
Holker transferring had wayyyyyy more to do with Steve Clark than anyone else.
Rise Against
Apr 5, 1:32pm
Again, he wasn't wrong. You went to the hyperbolic extreme claiming he said
Rise Against
Apr 5, 1:31pm
Oh now we had 15 starters come in last year.
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 2:05pm
Please share your full list.
Belboz
Apr 5, 2:10pm
My full list of what?
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 2:14pm
Guys who transferred TO BYU last year
Belboz
Apr 5, 2:18pm
You want me to go down a list of BYU guys who came in and mostly underperformed?
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 2:26pm
So you didn't even do a real comparison before calculating a net?
Belboz
Apr 5, 2:42pm
Logan is never going to play again?
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 2:58pm
Sure, he may play again.
Belboz
Apr 5, 3:03pm
I was not impressed with the vast majority of the transfers in to BYU
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 3:21pm
and you still won't give your full list.
Belboz
Apr 5, 3:25pm
Funny as that isn't what I said at all.
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 3:44pm
I think the transfer portal was a small net positive for BYU...
krindorr
Apr 6, 1:52am
Logan Fano, a star in the making....
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 2:55pm
A freshman that has only started 5 games in his career?
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 3:43pm
Played in only 5 games total with his third ACL injury...yeah, star in the making material right there.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 4:55pm
Yes and this year he will be sophomore. Not sure what you are even trying to
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 5:11pm
How do you not get it: You are calling a kid a star in the making the has played a grand total of 5 games?
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 9:57pm
Not hard. I have to answer why I think Bagnah wasn't that good.
kimdaddy35
Apr 5, 10:43pm
Bagnah? Why are you making a comparison like that. Just because he had more sacks than Bagnah doesn't make your point.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 6, 12:05am
I would love to see those statistics that you just made up.
kimdaddy35
Apr 6, 1:10am
I never made up a single statistic. Do you see a number or percentage anywhere in my post?
TheLoneCougar
Apr 6, 9:01am
It's not worth engaging him anymore. He's proven that he's not interested
Rise Against
Apr 6, 10:04am
Lol, you didn't say statistically speaking Fanonis likely to never play a season
kimdaddy35
Apr 6, 1:19pm
I said it was common sense, and then I put forth the evidence from a systematic review/meta analysis.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 6, 4:27pm
If you don't think transfers were a net positive for BYU last year,
Belboz
Apr 5, 2:09pm
Once again, I'm reminded of why I avoid conversing with kimdaddy. Facts and
Rise Against
Apr 5, 2:12pm
I love Kalani as a coach and hope he stays.
Shawarma
Apr 5, 10:03am
Where’s he going to go?
Brisco
Apr 5, 12:37pm
KS is a great coach if….
rmarkerm
Apr 5, 10:13am
You think he should be fired if he doesn't win 8 games this season? Wow.
Rise Against
Apr 5, 10:21am
Stronger indicators he isn't: see 4th and 20 fake punts. Out of his depth.
Mitty
Apr 5, 10:50am
This has absolutely nothing to do with my post at all. Strawman.
TheLoneCougar
Apr 5, 11:26am
The best thing Kalani has done for the program was to hire his successor.
WillsPitStop
Apr 5, 11:03am
Amen. He, is the future.
DawgHaus
Apr 5, 11:17am
I would be a lot less patient with KS If there was a clear cut alternative.
BigHouse Coug
Apr 5, 11:05am
Jay Hill doesn't impress you? I think he is the real deal.
84 natlchamps
Apr 5, 3:51pm
I wasn't a a proponent of replacing Kalani until I experienced Jay Hill's
TaysomJimmerEraCoug
Apr 5, 2:42pm
I hope Jay hill proves to be that good. Kalani may have just hired his Bronco
BigHouse Coug
Apr 5, 3:44pm
I'm of the opinion that Hill ends up the BYU HC....but via a roundabout method, not simply replacing his boss
krindorr
Apr 6, 12:10am
Doubt Utah outbids for Hill, they don't have superior funds anymore
Dr T-bone
Apr 6, 9:58am
I don't think they will HAVE more money, but will have more willingness to spend
krindorr
Apr 6, 2:12pm
If my dream job is HC at the U, why move under a potential long-timer
Dr T-bone
Apr 7, 9:12am
There's some validity to that thought process; let me think through it
krindorr
Apr 7, 10:29am
Hill will improve the D and help Kilani stay. Hill will
ALUF 1990
Apr 6, 8:57am
I think that's Hill's dream job...but the problem is Scalley
krindorr
Apr 6, 2:14pm
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Benfica1
Apr 6, 4:59pm
I think the best indicator is if he's getting the most out of his players and
BigHouse Coug
Apr 6, 4:51pm
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