It's called skill.

Jul 28, 2014
4:59:16pm

Mantis Mutu

It's called skill.

Hartsock doesn't have near enough skill to make it as an NBA 3. Davies does. And it's why Mr. Plaisted (who only a fool would argue is less of an athlete than Davies) never made a dent in the NBA, either.

mutu.

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BB team talent level

kfbob

7/28/14 11:39am

Do you honestly think this team is more talented than Jimmer's senior year?

ldssdl

7/28/14 11:41am

He must be on the team now if he thinks that.

BYUisLife

7/28/14 11:46am

And Aytes, and Fischer, and Neilson,

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 11:46am

Good point. I was overwhelmed with the amount of things wrong in the OP.

ldssdl

7/28/14 11:48am

RE: Do you honestly think this team is more talented than Jimmer's senior year?

kfbob

7/28/14 12:15pm

RE: Do you honestly think this team is more talented than Jimmer's senior year?

kfbob

7/28/14 12:24pm

Not as long as Davies was playing. Without him, yeah, I would say so.

thecthdox

7/28/14 2:16pm

RE: BB team talent level

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 11:43am

And two freshmen will get the most PT at PF and C? lol no.

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 11:47am

I don't know where to start on a response to this...

Lifer

7/28/14 11:44am

Yes, question mark about one player who has never entered a game after HS:

roseyscenario

7/28/14 2:11pm

Mika's level by March, eh. That would be Rosey indeed. Mika has one of the

Lifer

7/28/14 2:53pm

Agree he has a lot of work to do. But athletically he can get there if he learns

roseyscenario

7/28/14 6:37pm

No way...

bstod

7/28/14 4:44pm

OK, but the season doesn't start now. But i'll tone down my

roseyscenario

7/28/14 10:20pm

No need to tone it down...

bstod

7/29/14 9:21am

Except when i saw him work out against a big body,

roseyscenario

7/29/14 9:43am

Wow I know you're a

southernfriedcougar

7/29/14 10:33am

What have you seen of him that makes you think differently?

bstod

7/29/14 11:17am

Boy I hope this is not true...

byu bcs buster

7/29/14 11:37am

I have said this to others...

bstod

7/29/14 11:46am

RE: I have said this to others...

southernfriedcougar

7/29/14 11:54am

RE: What have you seen of him that makes you think differently?

southernfriedcougar

7/29/14 11:50am

He was actually listed at 6'8 in high school - and it wasn't a stretch.

bstod

7/29/14 12:12pm

RE: He was actually listed at 6'8 in high school - and it wasn't a stretch.

southernfriedcougar

7/29/14 12:25pm

Sorry but if i have high balled Corbin, this is way more on the low side!

roseyscenario

7/31/14 7:06pm

Kaufusi has more potential than Davies? Ummm...no.

RichieRich

7/28/14 11:44am

Well he's a heck of a lot bigger & stronger. Too early to tell, either way.

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 11:49am

By that logic, we may as well toss our O-line on the court.

RichieRich

7/28/14 11:52am

But the word "potential" was involved. Corbin certainly has a loooong way

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 11:56am

RE: But the word "potential" was involved. Corbin certainly has a loooong way

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 12:01pm

I think Davies was a decent athlete, but certainly not near elite. He was

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 12:25pm

RE: I think Davies was a decent athlete, but certainly not near elite. He was

chago04

7/28/14 12:53pm

Hartsock was a better athlete? LOL dude you really need to watch them both...

BengalCougar

7/28/14 1:48pm

Was EASILY stronger, & had a better vertical. Acrobatics is not athleticism.

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 1:57pm

And was faster, quicker, more explosive, more coordinated, that is all....

BengalCougar

7/28/14 2:10pm

There was a reason why Davies couldn't man-up on the boards like Hartsock

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 3:11pm

Hartsock was more aggressive on the boards and was better....

BengalCougar

7/28/14 4:21pm

I really wouldn't call either of those players "explosive"

BYUheaven

7/28/14 3:20pm

Teams did not double-team Davies much his Jr. year.

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 3:30pm

RE: I really wouldn't call either of those players "explosive"

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 3:30pm

Few of our bigs have had good dunking form, either. Davies was an exception.

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 3:38pm

Davies gets good minutes in the NBA, Hartsock is coaching.

Accipiter

7/28/14 4:47pm

It's called skill.

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 4:59pm

Keep digging that hole.

Accipiter

7/28/14 5:02pm

I will. It's truth, bro.

Mantis Mutu

7/28/14 5:04pm

It took a long time for Davies to Develop - He wasn't super good in HS

Dr T-bone

7/28/14 8:08pm

That's some sweet blue Kool-aid. Pour me a tall glass.

maizecoug

7/28/14 11:44am

RE: That's some sweet blue Kool-aid. Pour me a tall glass.

kfbob

7/28/14 12:18pm

Austin will get 20+ minutes. Worst case, he is 6th man. He likely starts.

roseyscenario

7/28/14 2:16pm

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roseyscenario

7/28/14 2:17pm

Is this a joke or reverse post that I dont understand?

BYUfan92

7/28/14 11:47am

Ugh, okay. Jimmer >>>> Haws/Fischer. Davies >> Kafusi/Austin/Worthington/Ayte s.

ldssdl

7/28/14 11:52am

RE: Ugh, okay. Jimmer >>>> Haws/Fischer. Davies >>

kfbob

7/28/14 12:40pm

Who is this Collingsworth that you speak of?

jreid191

7/28/14 11:52am

You're ignoring defense. That's what made Jimmer's senior year special.

B-town_coug

7/28/14 12:08pm

Hartsock wasn't terrible? didn't he have like the most blocks in a season since

BYUALWAYSNUM1

7/28/14 12:15pm

True - I'm understating his post defense, which only reinforces my point.

B-town_coug

7/28/14 12:21pm

I do agree that the defense that year was exceptional, especially considering

BYUALWAYSNUM1

7/28/14 12:28pm

For defensive purposes, Winder better play more than Fischer

BYUheaven

7/28/14 12:40pm

Except we don't have a legitimate post player.

Real Men Wear Blue

7/28/14 12:49pm

RE: Except we don't have a legitimate post player.

kfbob

7/28/14 12:52pm

'10-'11 Team vs '14-'15 Team (Side by side comparison) ...

AZcoug18

7/28/14 1:43pm

If these 2 teams played a 7 game series, who would win?

ldssdl

7/28/14 1:46pm

100% Agreed

AZcoug18

7/28/14 1:52pm

Many unproven players = potential. Top end = Sweet 16 but

Coogar2

7/28/14 2:05pm

Good post for recognizing reality of talent in Corbin and Aytes...but this front

roseyscenario

7/28/14 2:28pm

It's a shame C Collinsworth got hurt

TN_Coug

7/28/14 8:23pm

Haws should be better or equal than 2013-14

Thrill

7/28/14 2:46pm

haha nice troll. That's crazier than the OP.

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 2:49pm

It's accurate.

Thrill

7/28/14 8:00pm

nothing about your post is accurate

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 9:18pm

Soooo.....Haws won't be better or equal?

Thrill

7/28/14 10:21pm

RE: Soooo.....Haws won't be better or equal?

southernfriedcougar

7/28/14 11:34pm

If you mean minutes per game on the season:

roseyscenario

7/28/14 10:39pm

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