But he is straight from international high school after sitting out a year. We all knew he was going to be bad. Just wish he was more aggressive. And Hood's injuries have made it tough to get any rhythm for him. I think both of those players end up having solid careers.

But while Ingles and Millsap are rookies by definition, they are both 27 years old. And have PERs under 10. Millsap is at 7.8. That is atrocious. That is John Lucas III kind of stuff. You could pick almost any player off any other NBA roster and they wouldn't be worse than Ingles or Millsap.