I'm not sold on Mathews' ability to go up and use his size to fight for it.

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Mar 25, 2015
4:01:54pm

southernfriedcougar

I'm not sold on Mathews' ability to go up and use his size to fight for it.

Hoffman was the king of that. Mathews tends to shy away from it. I think he's getting better but he still needs to just say hey, I'm bigger than you and I will do anything to catch this over you. Needs to act 6'6 215. There's Kurtz as well. And he seems like a guy who will go up and get it.

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Going into last season I thought fades and red zone throws to Mitch Mathews

Mickey

3/25/15 3:01pm

It would've been effective if the QBs hadnt continuously thrown it out of bounds

CaliWG

3/25/15 3:04pm

Yep, too many overthrows, which is bad cuz MM is 6'6"

SUAVO

3/25/15 3:06pm

And having taysom in the blue zone created alot of different options

SUAVO

3/25/15 3:06pm

I remember 2-3 TD's that he caught on a fade that were out of bounds

AFcoug7

3/25/15 3:08pm

I will say this, Mitch's routes may be a contributing factor

CaliWG

3/25/15 3:11pm

Drove me nuts when that would happen. Give your guy a chance.

byubyu

3/25/15 3:10pm

Mitch needs to not run right down the sidline. They are both to blame.

Ebolarama

3/25/15 3:10pm

Agreed, see post above

CaliWG

3/25/15 3:12pm

My guess is mitch isn't strong enough to get off the press and gets pushed

Ebolarama

3/25/15 3:14pm

..and teach.the press technique to the Cougar CB while you're at it

3/25/15 4:23pm

the route is meant to be run 1 yard inside the sideline to the five yard line if

ChinaFan

3/26/15 1:38am

In the NFL, the only place it ever works, the WR lines up way inside so they

Ebolarama

3/26/15 10:17am

read it, the route is run along the sideline to the goal line 1 yard off the OB

ChinaFan

3/26/15 6:28pm

Nah. You need the threat of the slant for it to be most effective

macaroni

3/26/15 6:30pm

yup, and that's the point, the guy running the inside of the fade guy has to be

ChinaFan

3/26/15 6:45pm

You can run a slant 5 yards inside the line easy.

Ebolarama

3/30/15 9:00am

Or held the ball and thrown it waaaaay too late

jonnnylingo

3/25/15 4:17pm

Does that fade route into the corner of the end zone work for anybody

RC Vikings

3/25/15 3:07pm

Cody Hoffman caught his record setting TD on a fade against BSU in 2013

AFcoug7

3/25/15 3:09pm

Yeah, its incomplete or a TD which makes it a great option. The Herman Moore

Mickey

3/25/15 3:09pm

Or an interception but you can say that about every ball thrown into the end

RC Vikings

3/25/15 3:36pm

Agreed. It seems like a good idea but has been extremely inneffective

cougarnw

3/25/15 4:38pm

uh...yeah. do you watch any other teams?

macaroni

3/25/15 9:43pm

No it's not, the back shoulder throw works the fade into the corner does not

RC Vikings

3/28/15 11:41am

who are you responding to? i think you're confused.

macaroni

3/28/15 3:35pm

Fade might be the hardest throw in football.

Blueto

3/25/15 3:08pm

Agreed. Hate the fade, unless it's Beck to Harline

Downtown

3/25/15 3:10pm

And the dumbest play to run. Back shoulder fade, ironically, maybe the best.

Walter Bellhaven

3/25/15 3:10pm

They are rarely completed and a very diffacult throw for the QB...

3/25/15 3:26pm

He's tall, but not big like an Alshon Jeffrey, nor does he tend to high point

Left Shark Coug

3/25/15 3:09pm

Great post and that seems to sum up that play last year. Plus it did seem to be

Mickey

3/25/15 3:12pm

Thing is, he's being coached to throw it out of bounds. If you underthrow a fade

Blueto

3/25/15 3:20pm

Being a Carolina fan, I saw a ton of Jeffrey in college. Probably the best

Left Shark Coug

3/25/15 3:27pm

2 things

34power

3/25/15 3:10pm

matthews is the best out of bounds receiver i've ever seen

3/25/15 3:11pm

Sideline, biggest issue imo with Mitch

Heinz57

3/25/15 3:34pm

fade is dumbest playcall in college football...such a low success rate

nashty

3/25/15 3:18pm

and perfect timing.

mudpupper

3/25/15 3:52pm

I'm not sold on Mathews' ability to go up and use his size to fight for it.

southernfriedcougar

3/25/15 4:01pm

he had a bad habit of catching every ball up against his body...

icecougar

3/25/15 7:18pm

He was too busy catching WR screens and 5 yd slants last year...

icecougar

3/25/15 7:09pm

matthews doesn't play big, and he's definitely not physical. that doesn't work

macaroni

3/25/15 9:42pm

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