yup, and that's the point, the guy running the inside of the fade guy has to be

Mar 26, 2015
6:45:40pm

ChinaFan

a legitimate threat to make the safety pick him up, and put the WR and CB one on one where 6'6" means more, the fade also requires a good fake into the line to hold LBs and a TE sneaking into the middle of the EZ...

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Going into last season I thought fades and red zone throws to Mitch Mathews

Mickey

3/25/15 3:01pm

It would've been effective if the QBs hadnt continuously thrown it out of bounds

CaliWG

3/25/15 3:04pm

Yep, too many overthrows, which is bad cuz MM is 6'6"

SUAVO

3/25/15 3:06pm

And having taysom in the blue zone created alot of different options

SUAVO

3/25/15 3:06pm

I remember 2-3 TD's that he caught on a fade that were out of bounds

AFcoug7

3/25/15 3:08pm

I will say this, Mitch's routes may be a contributing factor

CaliWG

3/25/15 3:11pm

Drove me nuts when that would happen. Give your guy a chance.

byubyu

3/25/15 3:10pm

Mitch needs to not run right down the sidline. They are both to blame.

Ebolarama

3/25/15 3:10pm

Agreed, see post above

CaliWG

3/25/15 3:12pm

My guess is mitch isn't strong enough to get off the press and gets pushed

Ebolarama

3/25/15 3:14pm

..and teach.the press technique to the Cougar CB while you're at it

traveller 1860

3/25/15 4:23pm

the route is meant to be run 1 yard inside the sideline to the five yard line if

ChinaFan

3/26/15 1:38am

In the NFL, the only place it ever works, the WR lines up way inside so they

Ebolarama

3/26/15 10:17am

read it, the route is run along the sideline to the goal line 1 yard off the OB

ChinaFan

3/26/15 6:28pm

Nah. You need the threat of the slant for it to be most effective

macaroni

3/26/15 6:30pm

yup, and that's the point, the guy running the inside of the fade guy has to be

ChinaFan

3/26/15 6:45pm

You can run a slant 5 yards inside the line easy.

Ebolarama

3/30/15 9:00am

Or held the ball and thrown it waaaaay too late

jonnnylingo

3/25/15 4:17pm

Does that fade route into the corner of the end zone work for anybody

RC Vikings

3/25/15 3:07pm

Cody Hoffman caught his record setting TD on a fade against BSU in 2013

AFcoug7

3/25/15 3:09pm

Yeah, its incomplete or a TD which makes it a great option. The Herman Moore

Mickey

3/25/15 3:09pm

Or an interception but you can say that about every ball thrown into the end

RC Vikings

3/25/15 3:36pm

Agreed. It seems like a good idea but has been extremely inneffective

cougarnw

3/25/15 4:38pm

uh...yeah. do you watch any other teams?

macaroni

3/25/15 9:43pm

No it's not, the back shoulder throw works the fade into the corner does not

RC Vikings

3/28/15 11:41am

who are you responding to? i think you're confused.

macaroni

3/28/15 3:35pm

Fade might be the hardest throw in football.

Blueto

3/25/15 3:08pm

Agreed. Hate the fade, unless it's Beck to Harline

Downtown

3/25/15 3:10pm

And the dumbest play to run. Back shoulder fade, ironically, maybe the best.

Walter Bellhaven

3/25/15 3:10pm

They are rarely completed and a very diffacult throw for the QB...

Smoke Monster

3/25/15 3:26pm

He's tall, but not big like an Alshon Jeffrey, nor does he tend to high point

Left Shark Coug

3/25/15 3:09pm

Great post and that seems to sum up that play last year. Plus it did seem to be

Mickey

3/25/15 3:12pm

Thing is, he's being coached to throw it out of bounds. If you underthrow a fade

Blueto

3/25/15 3:20pm

Being a Carolina fan, I saw a ton of Jeffrey in college. Probably the best

Left Shark Coug

3/25/15 3:27pm

2 things

34power

3/25/15 3:10pm

matthews is the best out of bounds receiver i've ever seen

johnnycarson

3/25/15 3:11pm

Sideline, biggest issue imo with Mitch

Heinz57

3/25/15 3:34pm

fade is dumbest playcall in college football...such a low success rate

nashty

3/25/15 3:18pm

and perfect timing.

mudpupper

3/25/15 3:52pm

I'm not sold on Mathews' ability to go up and use his size to fight for it.

southernfriedcougar

3/25/15 4:01pm

he had a bad habit of catching every ball up against his body...

icecougar

3/25/15 7:18pm

He was too busy catching WR screens and 5 yd slants last year...

icecougar

3/25/15 7:09pm

matthews doesn't play big, and he's definitely not physical. that doesn't work

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