We'd need to do either that, or start not dissapointing fans with on-field

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Jul 5, 2015
3:22:59pm

Walter Bellhaven

We'd need to do either that, or start not dissapointing fans with on-field

Performance. If we were either undefeated or had winning record against both in state teams the last 5 years, fans would still be coming like they used to.

Even as a P5, we'll eventually need to stop embarrassing ourselves on the field or fans will leave.

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Very interesting article on Big 12 expansion candidates

kC Cougar

7/5/15 3:08pm

Yes.

Walter Bellhaven

7/5/15 3:11pm

Would that change if we get into a P5 conference?

kC Cougar

7/5/15 3:17pm

We'd need to do either that, or start not dissapointing fans with on-field

Walter Bellhaven

7/5/15 3:22pm

Its tough to use selling out a stadium for fanbase. LES is bigger than all the

darkcoug

7/5/15 3:11pm

I've often thought the same thing

reddead

7/5/15 5:09pm

Wow, we essentially have the lowest athletic budget out of all the teams, tied

8man

7/5/15 3:15pm

Estimated

Littlerich

7/5/15 3:15pm

Correct

8man

7/5/15 3:17pm

He is off. BYUs budget is 53 million and they had 60 million in revenue

concolor couguar

7/5/15 3:18pm

Good info, thanks

8man

7/5/15 3:19pm

THIS.

CosmoK

7/5/15 4:55pm

Also, not sure I can trust an article that calls "academics" "academicians".

7/5/15 7:28pm

US Dpet of Education report says BYU spent $53 mil and made $60 last year

7/5/15 3:23pm

too late, i see.

7/5/15 3:24pm

I like how they have to slip in the Church somehow...

BlueDragon

7/5/15 3:21pm

the Church thing is a legitimate issue because college presidents may block BYU

run26

7/5/15 3:42pm

Academics is academics, if you're able to get in the top 200 I don't see what

BlueDragon

7/5/15 4:04pm

Acedemic freedom

7/5/15 5:41pm

I don't believe this at all, plenty of taboo subjects were discussed and

Littlerich

7/5/15 6:42pm

If you don't believe it I think you need to do some research. It's true.

Polecat

7/5/15 8:15pm

I know what people say and I disagree

Littlerich

7/5/15 8:37pm

I can't tell if you are joking or are

7/5/15 9:19pm

Not joking, not naive. I think the "academic freedom" argument is pathetic as

Littlerich

7/5/15 9:54pm

This is accurate. BYU ranked higher on academic freedom in the last NWCCU

7/6/15 12:13am

Not according to one of my professors

2002Cougar

7/6/15 11:24am

I think the issue has more to do with the areas where academic freedom

reddead

7/6/15 1:42pm

BYU actually performs quite well by the "worlds" standard

7/6/15 5:38pm

exactly

7/6/15 8:19pm

Exactly wrong

Littlerich

7/6/15 8:29pm

RE: Exactly wrong

7/6/15 8:55pm

Do you have proof to back up your allegations of what would cause

Littlerich

7/6/15 9:23pm

You actually can't survey your student anonymously on any topic for publication

concolor couguar

7/6/15 9:29pm

Correct, The IRB would have no reason to not approve this if done

Littlerich

7/6/15 9:33pm

Teams around the country are seeing attendance problems

Cougarclaw

7/5/15 3:23pm

Yeah, fans don't show up for games like they once did.

Belboz

7/5/15 3:41pm

Too easy not to show when BYUTv doesn't Black it out.

7/6/15 1:26am

CSU is building a " new 40-seat" stadium? Talk about downsizing.

Monomachos

7/5/15 3:55pm

See Baylor

CaliWG

7/5/15 6:09pm

RE: Very interesting article on Big 12 expansion candidates

dantes69

7/5/15 4:48pm

How does that make them a better candidate

BYU '80

7/5/15 6:14pm

Yeah but in a 38k stadium that kind of sucks.

7/5/15 7:11pm

I call absolute BS on this

LifeLongLakerFan

7/5/15 8:04pm

I've found a few rankings for SECONDARY market that have BSU top 20.

CosmoK

7/5/15 9:20pm

RE: I call absolute BS on this

dantes69

7/6/15 9:13am

Now I know you're lying, because nobody older than middle school issues that

LifeLongLakerFan

7/6/15 7:01pm

Claiming brand and fan size needs to be coupled with on-field performance

Y4LYFE

7/5/15 11:04pm

BYU attendance at P12 away games

krewus

7/6/15 11:09am

Utah fans travel really well to most of the PAC 12 away games.

displacedute

7/6/15 1:57pm

By "well" you mean about 180 50-something goatee-wearing jack mormons.

7/6/15 8:21pm

No. I've been to UCLA and USC and ASU games.

displacedute

7/9/15 12:06pm

They should have included our fan base away-travel attendance

LasVegasBlue

7/6/15 11:09am

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