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Aug 27, 2015
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8theU
Also lost CJ Ah You
A stud DE that played as a true frosh. He went on to start for OU.
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How bare was the cupboard in the Crowton years?
donnerstag
8/27/15 10:50am
Crowton recuited some fantastic players
Bloodhound
8/27/15 11:07am
Also lost CJ Ah You
8theU
8/27/15 2:34pm
Lavell left the cupboard pretty bare and Crowton filled it with a bunch
QuickCoug
8/27/15 11:09am
That's scary
KingDave
8/27/15 11:20am
Crowton left the program with a bunch of players that did succeed
donnerstag
8/27/15 11:26am
Did you watch the '02 thru '04 seasons?
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 11:35am
The numbers weren't that much different
donnerstag
8/27/15 11:49am
1200 more yards, 12 more TD's and a higher efficiency rating aren't much
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 11:54am
Why don't you compare in an apples to apples way?
donnerstag
8/27/15 12:16pm
Sure, let's just make up stats and call it apples to apples.
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 12:32pm
No. I'm saying you can't compare TDs and yards thrown when there is a material
donnerstag
8/27/15 12:52pm
A quantum leap between his junior and senior seasons? You serious, Clark?
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 1:09pm
Beck went from a 2:1 TD to Int ratio to 4:1 as a senior
donnerstag
8/27/15 1:22pm
He quit tossing picks, basically.
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 1:44pm
No. He threw more TDs and threw less Ints
donnerstag
8/27/15 2:09pm
I got you too focused on just the QB. Beck's stats were just the start.
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 2:54pm
again, shallow analysis. 04 team played the #11 toughest schedule....
icecougar
8/28/15 4:15pm
if you were old enough to watch games back then you could see the difference
icecougar
8/28/15 4:06pm
You'd need to compare it to other QB's and see how much improvement is shown on
currentbyustudent
8/27/15 1:42pm
The production we got from the QB spot was more or less steady from '05 to '09
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 1:48pm
I meant you'd need to compare Beck's improvement from Soph. to Jr. seasons
currentbyustudent
8/27/15 2:17pm
kind of dumb, he had nearly 200 more attempts, of course he's going to compile..
icecougar
8/28/15 3:59pm
2001 was stacked with talent, even on D, despite the fact our D sucked that year
Jericho
8/27/15 11:37am
Crowton found lightning in a bottle with Doman/Staley
donnerstag
8/27/15 11:44am
Yeah, for sure. Just making the point that he had a lot of future NFL
Jericho
8/27/15 11:46am
The problem was that there was nobody in the pipeline
HiLife
8/27/15 11:55am
absolutely true
Jericho
8/27/15 11:58am
The wide receiving corps was the best Utah County had to offer
donnerstag
8/27/15 12:17pm
It was pretty bad, for sure
Jericho
8/27/15 12:31pm
The loss at home to unlv in 2004 plus off field is why he was fired.
rcbyufan
8/27/15 11:26am
It didn't help that his long time friend and DC was in love with the 3,3,5
8theU
8/27/15 2:39pm
Except he gave away the Stanford game and the Wyoming game was just
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 11:32am
Imagine if he had lost to Nevada or a 1 win uva or 54-10
CarolinaCoug
8/27/15 1:41pm
English, dude, English.
Left Shark Coug
8/27/15 1:46pm
He did worse than that, he lost to UNLV at home and threw the ball 50 times to
mtnKat
8/27/15 2:06pm
Nothing is worse than 54-10 and Nevada is little bro to unlv
CarolinaCoug
8/27/15 2:14pm
Not to get too picky, but UNR owns UNLV in football and it's not even close
Jericho
8/27/15 2:18pm
I agree kinda like Utah owning us huh? But I mean historiclly
CarolinaCoug
8/27/15 2:25pm
Utah has always had the better record over us
Jericho
8/27/15 2:29pm
They haven't played each other much...I would have thought
CarolinaCoug
8/27/15 2:44pm
I'm not even sure what you are saying
Jericho
8/27/15 2:54pm
I should stop with your Nevada is little bro to unlv comment. You have no
mtnKat
8/27/15 5:44pm
LOL @ those WRs
ag4cougs
8/27/15 1:44pm
Wasn't the cupboard bare partially due to his own recruiting?
Bostonblue
8/27/15 1:49pm
That was one position group basically
donnerstag
8/27/15 2:02pm
It was a failure that was one of his major undoings. It made his firing easy.
Bostonblue
8/27/15 2:52pm
They were low on talent for sure, but keep in mind that there were 2 losses
XXL
8/27/15 3:00pm
Crowton also brought in David Nixon, Bryan Kehl, Manase Tonga, Harvey Unga..
icecougar
8/28/15 3:47pm
Unga was recruited by Bronco
Jericho
8/28/15 4:04pm
Unga was part of Crowton's last recruiting class in 2005. Bronco inherited that
icecougar
8/28/15 4:27pm
Bronco had to seal the deal on the Unga recruitment, it is well known that
Jericho
8/28/15 4:52pm
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