and in a good year get 7 wins. a really really good year get 8 or 9.
i don't think they'll ever get 10 wins. there's just more reasons for guys to go to the la schools or arizona schools. mix in stanford and oregon....utah is about the 8th best place to attend in the p12. it just is.
i think if byu were in the b12 it would be similar...we'd always be behind texas and Ou and a few others. but i'd take it in a heartbeat.